I’m not religious but I’m a massive Trump and Q follower. I see lots Christians on the board, any other atheists around here?
How do you view the religious factor in the Q movement?
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Man I have been where you are. The reality is you don't know where one phsyop ends and another begins. In my veiw you pushing a 200 year old anti-relgion phsyop that leverages about 2000 years of authoritarian power plays layered on top of religious beleif. The net result is you are pointing out the evil of the powerful as the only example of what the meaning of Jesus is. There is a fallacy built into this. One thing does not share its meaning or interpretation uniformly across a group. Ie christ means different things to different people.
I don't care what organized religion has to say, never have, never will. But instead I have found real psychological utility in the archetype of the most good person who could exist, who was tortured and killed in proportion to how good he was. That is so patently true in so many areas of life, that we are punished for our virtues by the world around us, that it has become a daily reminder to recenter myself, "I am not that good, and I am not suffering that bad".
Be angry at religion, be angry at authority, but open up your mind.
I can recomend this lecture series that makes a rational case for the psychological utility of the Bible. It might help you sort out the phsy op from the ancestral wisdom.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I3lUrrFTzkpat
I knew before i clicked on it you were going to link me to Jordan Peterson. Hell you write like he speaks!! Ill give him a listen, maybe someone like him can explain some of the fallacies that I find in Christianity
Best of luck with it! His approach is more about figuring out what is true in the stories rather than extracting out fallacies. But from understanding the truth, the fallacies are easier to pick out and seem almost mundane by comparison.i would also consider his "maps of meanings" lectures which covers similar psychological topics but focus on the rise of comunism as an artifact of shared psychology driven by archetypal shifts in our shared narratives. It's uses more secular subject matter to lay the groundwork for story as artifact of psychological truth (or propaganda depending on the work). I wish you the best in your journey!
Well said, my friend. An open mind and heart are among my greatest virtues to maintain. Within those virtues I find creedence to all forms in which "Christ" manifests himself. I try not to be angry because we are all in different places along our own spiritual path and if there is a higher power this is what they intended. Presumably whatever you are experiencing is what you need to grow into the next plane of existence, and no matter what you believe; I wish you well along that path