Why does your employer get to force you to reveal your vaccination status to others at your workplace? Sounds like a pretty clear violation of HIPPA, as well as workplace discrimination/harassment laws. No way in hell I would do that, and I would have obtained a lawyer the moment my job indicated that they were targeting me.
Thanks. That is an angle I don't hear many bring up - but an extremely valid one. Just the threat of HIPPA violations are enough to make most employers change policies. I have seen it happen many times myself. There are two things employers do not want crawling up their behinds - OSHA and HIPPA enforcement.
I think this is where things get tricky, especially if you have an employer that is in multiple states: how do you craft policy? Because you are right, they don't want OSHA up their ass. This one if my main beefs - that the government is using private enterprise as a proxy to impose restrictions on the populace they would never get away with otherwise. Look at the tech censorship - same thing.
Part of the problem is your SJW - I am painting with a broad brush here, but don't think they are not discussing these same issues in an effort to find ways to take a vindictive stance. Last summer, my dad got into an argument with a customer. (Few people were coming into the store and it was just family working. Dry cleaners get HOT in the summer.) The guy walked out and then came back in and screamed at my dad that he did not have a mask on. Next thing you know, the country health department came in threatening to fine him $300 per incident. At the time business was down 80%. It might as well have been $3000. These are the shitty assholes out there.
The employers are going to take the path of least resistance. I am not saying that it is right, because it is not but your mainstream business is just trying to survive. The assholes who brought us this shit show know this, and are using it as a weapon.
Sorry to hear about your father's struggles made worse by ignorant SJWs. Having worked with employers in the past over OSHA issues I know the struggles they face - they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Small and medium sized business owners in particular are extremely vulnerable. They are taken advantage of by so called officials that haven't got a clue about what the laws actually are and what is required compliance for business owners versus what is in the realm of guidelines that are voluntary - but guidelines that business owners are highly pressured into implementing because they do not understand the nuisances in the terminology. In addition, business owners try to hire entities to help navigate these muddy waters only to be taken advantage of by these entities that they hired for help. I have had cases where businesses have spent thousands of dollars to bring their businesses into compliance only to find out they were not. One company in particular had their written policies taken from another state and they had no idea. They then had to bring themselves into compliance according to the state they were in. Shameful.
I think the best thing at this point is for employees to pass on information to their employers about where they stand legally. The prospect of being sued is usually enough to make them change a policy. But, like your father, it is a hard place for business owners to be in right now. They just don't know what to do. And that too I am afraid, is also part of the plan to destroy small business in this country. Good luck to you and him.
It may be an ADA violation as opposed to a HIPPA violation. HIPPA deals with what entities are allowed to do with medical information in their possession.
Why does your employer get to force you to reveal your vaccination status to others at your workplace? Sounds like a pretty clear violation of HIPPA, as well as workplace discrimination/harassment laws. No way in hell I would do that, and I would have obtained a lawyer the moment my job indicated that they were targeting me.
Thanks. That is an angle I don't hear many bring up - but an extremely valid one. Just the threat of HIPPA violations are enough to make most employers change policies. I have seen it happen many times myself. There are two things employers do not want crawling up their behinds - OSHA and HIPPA enforcement.
Very solid ground there, everyone is required or no one required.....seems pretty obvious after reading ToxicLibertyism.
I think this is where things get tricky, especially if you have an employer that is in multiple states: how do you craft policy? Because you are right, they don't want OSHA up their ass. This one if my main beefs - that the government is using private enterprise as a proxy to impose restrictions on the populace they would never get away with otherwise. Look at the tech censorship - same thing.
Part of the problem is your SJW - I am painting with a broad brush here, but don't think they are not discussing these same issues in an effort to find ways to take a vindictive stance. Last summer, my dad got into an argument with a customer. (Few people were coming into the store and it was just family working. Dry cleaners get HOT in the summer.) The guy walked out and then came back in and screamed at my dad that he did not have a mask on. Next thing you know, the country health department came in threatening to fine him $300 per incident. At the time business was down 80%. It might as well have been $3000. These are the shitty assholes out there.
The employers are going to take the path of least resistance. I am not saying that it is right, because it is not but your mainstream business is just trying to survive. The assholes who brought us this shit show know this, and are using it as a weapon.
Sorry to hear about your father's struggles made worse by ignorant SJWs. Having worked with employers in the past over OSHA issues I know the struggles they face - they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Small and medium sized business owners in particular are extremely vulnerable. They are taken advantage of by so called officials that haven't got a clue about what the laws actually are and what is required compliance for business owners versus what is in the realm of guidelines that are voluntary - but guidelines that business owners are highly pressured into implementing because they do not understand the nuisances in the terminology. In addition, business owners try to hire entities to help navigate these muddy waters only to be taken advantage of by these entities that they hired for help. I have had cases where businesses have spent thousands of dollars to bring their businesses into compliance only to find out they were not. One company in particular had their written policies taken from another state and they had no idea. They then had to bring themselves into compliance according to the state they were in. Shameful.
I think the best thing at this point is for employees to pass on information to their employers about where they stand legally. The prospect of being sued is usually enough to make them change a policy. But, like your father, it is a hard place for business owners to be in right now. They just don't know what to do. And that too I am afraid, is also part of the plan to destroy small business in this country. Good luck to you and him.
Thanks. It has been very difficult and I worry a great deal for them.
It may be an ADA violation as opposed to a HIPPA violation. HIPPA deals with what entities are allowed to do with medical information in their possession.