This is a huge comms op. Live feed on here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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The 30 or so minutes of it that I managed to endure was blaming the early forecasts of deaths, simple graphs and a system of information flow that failed to do the job.
I hope that this ensnares Ferguson.
It sounded as though he has drawn BG (& the G@tes Foundation) into the discussion by linking Sir Patrick Vallence with Astra Zeneca. The Barnard Castle trip was probably a visit to GSK to get them to stand down to make way for the AZ j@b, for whatever reason. . .