Suppose we've had 1000 years of a meaningful tech civilization. That's a blink of an eye compared to say, the 10 billion year age of the galaxy. So statistically, barbaric civilizations like us should be rare in a galaxy, like planetary nebulae are rare because they are fleeting too.
If aliens are old cultures, they are not going help us cheat by giving us tech. We have to break out of the solar system on our own. In the meantime, our barbaric ways are probably providing them with endless entertainment.
It's not just the relative age of the universe it's also the time it takes for planets that are capable of supporting life to form. In terms of universal time our universe is still just a baby. We very well could be one of the first civilizations.
Correct. Before there is life, there should be planets, before planets there should be an abundance of 3rd generation stars to have all those heavy elements available.
Life is 100% very abundant in the universe, but we might very well be one of the first and the oldest civilization.
P.S. A part of the Great Awakening will be a realization that our civilization is older than most think and there was a cataclysm ~12ka ago that destroyed almost all (including Atlantis, a real place). That plenty of structures around the world are actually made by this old civilization.
I don't know about the last bit, if they're truly a civilization advanced enough to reach the stars and so on, I wonder what that implies for their social structures. I'd be inclined to believe that they'd need to have learned some pretty hard lessons about cooperation and morality. The more I see the more I'm convinced that only a post "awakening" society would be capable of advancing that far instead of stagnating and degrading.
Then again, they might just be so different from us that these comparisons don't even remotely hit close.
Either way, if they are morally and philosophically advanced, I don't think they'd glean entertainment out of watching humanity suffer. Maybe encouragement when watching us overcome, but sadism doesn't really fit well in my eyes.
I lean towards this interpretation too.
Suppose we've had 1000 years of a meaningful tech civilization. That's a blink of an eye compared to say, the 10 billion year age of the galaxy. So statistically, barbaric civilizations like us should be rare in a galaxy, like planetary nebulae are rare because they are fleeting too.
If aliens are old cultures, they are not going help us cheat by giving us tech. We have to break out of the solar system on our own. In the meantime, our barbaric ways are probably providing them with endless entertainment.
It's not just the relative age of the universe it's also the time it takes for planets that are capable of supporting life to form. In terms of universal time our universe is still just a baby. We very well could be one of the first civilizations.
Correct. Before there is life, there should be planets, before planets there should be an abundance of 3rd generation stars to have all those heavy elements available. Life is 100% very abundant in the universe, but we might very well be one of the first and the oldest civilization.
P.S. A part of the Great Awakening will be a realization that our civilization is older than most think and there was a cataclysm ~12ka ago that destroyed almost all (including Atlantis, a real place). That plenty of structures around the world are actually made by this old civilization.
I don't know about the last bit, if they're truly a civilization advanced enough to reach the stars and so on, I wonder what that implies for their social structures. I'd be inclined to believe that they'd need to have learned some pretty hard lessons about cooperation and morality. The more I see the more I'm convinced that only a post "awakening" society would be capable of advancing that far instead of stagnating and degrading.
Then again, they might just be so different from us that these comparisons don't even remotely hit close.
Either way, if they are morally and philosophically advanced, I don't think they'd glean entertainment out of watching humanity suffer. Maybe encouragement when watching us overcome, but sadism doesn't really fit well in my eyes.
“Meanwhile, on planet Earth….” You got to know that we are on some alien news channel as we speak.