Not sure when this interview occurred, but I certainly remember seeing this interview early in the pandemic. Esp. the word he used ..."droplet"... (referring to the tiny size of a virus and the likehood the mask would stop them) and his notion the "feel good" aspect being about all you get with masks. I've quoted these remarks of his often to anyone who needs to hear it. Probably one of only a handful of times he told the truth.