I have to say... this one hurts because JP's message really resonated with me and pulled me out of a dark place from 2016 until ~today. I'm tempted to think that his medical absence was part of some nefarious DS 'reprogramming' but I usually think the simplest explanation is the most likely one. I think JP may believe that "by any means necessary" is preferable to "the ends don't justify the means".
I think that those two ideas are what our entire culture war / spiritual battle is being fought over. I also think there are perfectly rational paths to arrive at each conclusion. Look at us - we want blood for the crimes committed by the cabal (I include myself in this camp) but our idol/ideal, Jesus, sacrificed himself to sinners instead of slaying them. I have thought that I land in the "ends don't justify the means" camp but I also don't think I'm strong enough to take that to it's logical conclusion, as our savior did.
I remember being put off when JP chimed in on the Brett Kavanaugh hearings - after all the false rape allegations, JP said that he thought it would be best if BK stepped down because of all the bad press, and how people would "feel" about it. This really turned me off, even though I truly think his message is overall positive. He's an imperfect human (and possibly a leftie at heart). We're all imperfect. I have been trying to destroy the bad within me, cultivate the good within me, and adopt the good I hear from others, while deflecting the bad I hear from others. This is a topic where JP and I diverge.
I tend to agree with your sentiments. This disappointing statement from Jordan has generated a lot of mixed feelings in myself, but I agree that we need to try to have some degree of understanding.
Nevertheless, I was really put off by his statement to "get the damn vaccine." I'm gonna have a hard time listening to him for a while... I think he's alienated a lot of his followers with this kind of crap. I mean sadly he is a psychologist at the end of the day... it was nice to think of him as a lone hero, but he may be more like his colleagues than we thought.
I suppose it is also possible, and perhaps we shouldn't be too quick to discount the possibility, that he's been scared of being too forceful on certain issues due to his time in the hospital. Still, that doesn't excuse what he said. If he truly is afraid of some sort of Deep-State reprisal, he could / should have simply stayed silent on the whole issue of the vaccine.
Yeah, this is a rough one to be frank. I guess I'm trying not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" too quickly. He was almost completely incapacitated for the entire covid nonsense, so his understanding of it is probably skewed - he didn't get to see the BS happening in real time like the rest of us.
I have to say... this one hurts because JP's message really resonated with me and pulled me out of a dark place from 2016 until ~today. I'm tempted to think that his medical absence was part of some nefarious DS 'reprogramming' but I usually think the simplest explanation is the most likely one. I think JP may believe that "by any means necessary" is preferable to "the ends don't justify the means".
I think that those two ideas are what our entire culture war / spiritual battle is being fought over. I also think there are perfectly rational paths to arrive at each conclusion. Look at us - we want blood for the crimes committed by the cabal (I include myself in this camp) but our idol/ideal, Jesus, sacrificed himself to sinners instead of slaying them. I have thought that I land in the "ends don't justify the means" camp but I also don't think I'm strong enough to take that to it's logical conclusion, as our savior did.
I remember being put off when JP chimed in on the Brett Kavanaugh hearings - after all the false rape allegations, JP said that he thought it would be best if BK stepped down because of all the bad press, and how people would "feel" about it. This really turned me off, even though I truly think his message is overall positive. He's an imperfect human (and possibly a leftie at heart). We're all imperfect. I have been trying to destroy the bad within me, cultivate the good within me, and adopt the good I hear from others, while deflecting the bad I hear from others. This is a topic where JP and I diverge.
I tend to agree with your sentiments. This disappointing statement from Jordan has generated a lot of mixed feelings in myself, but I agree that we need to try to have some degree of understanding.
Nevertheless, I was really put off by his statement to "get the damn vaccine." I'm gonna have a hard time listening to him for a while... I think he's alienated a lot of his followers with this kind of crap. I mean sadly he is a psychologist at the end of the day... it was nice to think of him as a lone hero, but he may be more like his colleagues than we thought.
I suppose it is also possible, and perhaps we shouldn't be too quick to discount the possibility, that he's been scared of being too forceful on certain issues due to his time in the hospital. Still, that doesn't excuse what he said. If he truly is afraid of some sort of Deep-State reprisal, he could / should have simply stayed silent on the whole issue of the vaccine.
Yeah, this is a rough one to be frank. I guess I'm trying not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" too quickly. He was almost completely incapacitated for the entire covid nonsense, so his understanding of it is probably skewed - he didn't get to see the BS happening in real time like the rest of us.