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flame_whip 1 point ago +2 / -1

We'll see if you have that same go-getter attitude in 2028. I'm personally fed up with this circus.

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flame_whip 2 points ago +2 / -0

Translation: It was a polite response not from Abe, but from his ambassador.

Presidents usually reply to letters via their ambassadors / secretaries. It has to receive the approval of the president before it gets sent. Presidents (especially back then) are usually too busy to read and write their own mail. They often had someone read it to them and they would dictate a response rather than writing it. Which still gets rubber-stamped by them before it gets sent.

You can read the original letter here: https://archive.org/details/karlmarxcivilwa00schl/page/12/mode/2up

Or also in the link posted by OP: https://www.marxists.org/history/international/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

Translation: Abe and Marx never met each other, but that does not stop those who want to smear to find connections like this. I am assuming this was the best connection they could dig up.

They didn't need to meet personally. Abe had handlers who worked for the Rothschilds, just like Marx did. As briefly mentioned in the above pamphlet entitled "Karl Marx and the Civil War," Garibaldi and Mazzini were two Masonic revolutionaries that spearheaded the abolitionist movement and they also were associated with the committee of socialists and revolutionaries which Marx wrote on behalf of. In other words, the Rothschilds had these two agents operating on both sides of the pond, so Marx and Lincoln were joined at the hip anyway, despite never having met in person.

For more documentary evidence, see The Curse of Canaan by Eustace Mullins (1987): https://archive.org/details/mullins-e.-c.-the-curse-of-canaan-1987/page/146/mode/2up

but their affinities led to what Blackburn calls an “unfinished revolution”

Whoever Blackburn is, its his opinion, and his opinion is not much worth for us.

Actually, this is an important admission. This is communist codespeak for the revolution we're seeing unfolding right now. The Civil War was just the beginning. As admitted in a Soviet training for brainwashing America discovered in the 1960s, America was intended as the initial stage for the first communist revolution in the world. The Civil War was intended to facilitate this effort. But it didn't happen fast enough and Russia became the stage instead. But now, here in the 20th-century, we're seeing all the corruptions resulting from the Civil War culminating in the chaos we're seeing now.

Blackburn's book is interesting in its own right, although he's a commie author himself: https://www.amazon.com/Unfinished-Revolution-Karl-Abraham-Lincoln/dp/1844677222/

(But sometimes, commies admit intriguing things too, which we should all know here)

I linked you to several documents containing them. Read them for yourself:

We all know the real goal of the Cabal was to break up US in the Civil war, and whether you hate him or love him, he foiled their plan and pushed back their agenda by another 100 years at least.

Not true at all. Just as Marx says in his letter congratulating Lincoln on his re-election: "If resistance to the Slave Power was the reserved watchword of your first election, the triumphant war cry of your re-election is Death to Slavery."

This was again codespeak for something beyond its surface meaning. In fact, Marx was alluding to Lincoln's genocide of the South which actually occurred during the Civil War and Lincoln's re-election. Marx was congratulating Lincoln on genociding the people of the South. Even the infamous Union general William Tecumseh Sherman admitted, after the war, that the form of warfare that he had waged against the South violated the rules of war that had been taught at West Point. Lincoln's war policy also violated the rules of civilized warfare that had long been accepted by European nations.

Okay, we are getting more juicy material here. Read between the lines and you will see that Marx was one of the people who twisted the situation to force Lincoln into the civil war.

Lincoln wasn't forced into the Civil War at all. For some good reading material on this issue:

Tsar stood up to them but eventually succumbed, but good ole Abe managed to prevail.

You're correct about the Czar, but Lincoln was not the guy that "managed to prevail." He realized that he'd been used by the war's end, and between him paving the way for central banks and corporatizing Congress, the bankers realized it was too sweet of a deal to let anything jeopardize it, so they killed off their pet. Lincoln began to resent the control he'd been placed under, although he had followed their orders for many years.

Read this carefully. All they have to offer is "met Marx in 1848" to make it sound like Abe had a hardcore commie in his administration.

Lincoln had many hardcore commies in his administration. For a good book on this facet of this issue:

Folks, this is an excellent exercise in understanding what "Fake News" means and in how many different flavours it comes in. This kind of rubbish should be nipped in the bud.

Although the WaPo is pure shit, this article and the other links represent an important admission about Lincoln being bad for America. There are lots of other things to prove this fact, but you'll have to be able to throw off your idolatry of Lincoln before opening your eyes to this truth.

Ultimately it requires a holistic view of history to understand why Abraham Lincoln is not the hero that modern Americans have made him out to be. For some extra material on this, here you go:

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flame_whip 2 points ago +2 / -0

You keep quoting the American witnesses, but interestingly the Japanese witnesses tell another story: https://www.sdh-fact.com/CL02_1/66_S4.pdf

That whole website has a lot of interesting data on it that paints a very different picture than the one being told by the History Channel and the CIA: https://www.sdh-fact.com

It seems that at the very least these claims are being way overblown. Any witness can claim anything. The question is whether there is reliable evidence and corroboration behind their claims. The devil tells the truth once in a blue moon. And so does the satanic US Government. It truly seems that there is no corroborative evidence beyond what these "witnesses" claim. Smells pretty fishy to me. Seems pretty gullible to believe the POW's who are being heralded as truth-bearers by the CIA and Simon Wiesenthal Center.

I don't think POWs' testimony should be taken at face value without examining the whole context of the situation, just like anyone else. POW's can be coerced or bribed to exaggerate or make up their story. Especially in the context of mock war trials and lies spun decades after the fact.

If you want to call me pathetic and not look into the "real people's" stories, try reading some of the Japanese soldiers' testimonies too. The conversation is pretty one-sided on your end. I think I'm done here.

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flame_whip 2 points ago +2 / -0

Alright, I set aside some time to do some digging and found some important data about the history of this event.

The following document comes from the US Govt. and it admits there is ZERO evidence for the types of Japanese war crimes you're talking about. The following is from page 10 of this document: https://www.archives.gov/files/iwg/japanese-war-crimes/select-documents.pdf#page=11

“Japanese Biological Warfare Experiments in World War II”: On May 26,1982, the U.S. Congress sought formal comments from the Department of State on biological warfare experiments carried out by Gen. Shiro ISHII [JWC 301/07].

“Japanese Biological Warfare Experiments in World War II”: On March 10, 1983, Senator Bill Bradley called for a formal Congressional inquiry on the “alleged experimentation on humans by the Japanese during World War II” [JWC 301/12].

“Department of Defense Questions & Answers Regarding Unit 731 (May, 12, 1995)”: DOD responded that “there does not appear to be any documentary evidence to support claims that U.S. POWs were subjected to biological experimentation by the Japanese Army during World War II” [see JWC 125].

“Department of Veterans Affairs Responses to Press Inquiries on Mukden POWs” (July 14, 1995): DVA responded, “No confirming evidence has as yet been presented that biological warfare experiments were conducted on those POWs who were held in Mukden” [see JWC 126].

“National Security Council Press Guidance: Japanese Biological Warfare Experiments in World War II”: NSC provided a summary of the claims by POWs that they were the objects of BW experiments by the Japanese. NSC noted that over years of exhaustive searching, “we have not been able to locate conclusive evidence that U.S. POWs were subjects of biological warfare experiments” [see JWC 244].

(bold and italics added)

There you go. The US Govt. itself, as of 2007, has found ZERO evidence that this thing ever happened. They've admitted it in their official minutes.

I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post. You can do what you want to with this information. I've done enough homework for you.

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flame_whip 1 point ago +1 / -0

So you're basing your conclusion on "destroyed" documents? Interesting. This is the same garbage that they push on Germany. It's easy to spin whatever narrative you want to when you can claim all the original documents were "destroyed." The fact that these alleged Japanese documents passed through so many governments' hands, as they certainly did after WWII, is very suspicious. It's just too easy to create a brainwashing narrative from that kind of stuff. Playing fast and loose with real history is too common in our movement nowadays.

MK Ultra is not the same as this incident we're talking about. There were people speaking out against MK Ultra when it happened. You're claiming all the evidence for "Unit 731" came from post-1984. Plus, MK Ultra is still largely denounced as a conspiracy theory, and those who speak truthfully about it are silenced. Whereas it appears that "Unit 731" has gained widespread mainstream acceptance and popularity.

Your statement is a pretty lousy principle to determine truth.

And I think relying on the CIA and communist think-tanks is a hell of a lot lousier. Which is all you've showed me in this thread. I'd love to dig into the history more thoroughly if I had time for research (which I normally do), but I don't have time right now. So all I can say for now is that you should come up with some more convincing resources than sites that reference the CIA and commie thinktanks.

My opinion “they were all doing it!”

"Your opinion." Gotcha. I can't change your opinion buddy. Believe whatever you want to. Just don't state it as fact.

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flame_whip 1 point ago +1 / -0

When did operation paper clip finally come into light? It would appear that it was the mid eighties, so where does that put your argument about unit 731?

I think Operation Paperclip has also been massively overblown and taken out of context. I believe the German scientists that the USA absorbed were not involved in the horrible genocide experiments that they are accused of being involved in. It's clear from studying history that it was actually the USSR which conducted these nightmarish procedures and framed it on the Germans during Nuremberg. German scientists like Von Braun are the reason we have rockets.

Those two paragraphs you quoted are filled with names of agencies and organizations which are known to doctor and edit history, including the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the CIA. Am I really supposed to believe Japan was doing these things based on their word alone? It sounds like their strongest evidence is some apocryphal "hard-to-translate" army records which were brought here, remained untouched for 13 years, and then hurriedly microfilmed and "translated" by Harvard and Georgetown University (another two notoriously communist schools which have a track-record of changing and erasing history). Your quotes really aren't inspiring confidence in this whole narrative for me.

I'm sure if I dug deeper I could find issues with this narrative, since the "smoking-gun" evidence seems very flimsy. But I simply don't have time right now. I'm not trying to defend Japan as flawless and perfectly innocent during the war. I have family who served in Okinawa. But I don't just buy what Simon Wiesenthal, CIA, and Harvard tells me about some experiments that allegedly happened there which only "came to light" after they got their hands on certain documents and claim that those documents provide support and evidence for such events occurring.

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flame_whip 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Nanking massacre was a fabricated hoax, used by the Chinese to psyop Japan and guilt-trip their populace: https://remnant-p.com/nankingm.htm

The Japanese fortunately have largely not fallen for this garbage, but it's caught like wildfire in the West. And regarding Unit 731, as your linked website blatantly admits, Unit 731 didn't "come to light" until 1984 and they admit that:

"Not many evidence about the truth regarding Unit 731 were left [...] many facts about Unit 731’s activities remain unknown."

As they say, the victors write the history... as for why, China already stole our election and lied about it - are we supposed to think they didn't lie about all this too?

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flame_whip 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, I guess that's a fair use of his demon face. Good luck.

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flame_whip 7 points ago +7 / -0

Communist is the word you're looking for. Maher is a communist. Plain and simple. No need for us to fumble around with their misdirection word games.

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flame_whip 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is not the first positive thread I've seen about him. Of course what he said is true. But I'd just as rather not see his demonic face on here regardless.

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flame_whip 2 points ago +3 / -1

Commies slip in slivers of truth in what they say routinely. It makes their BS more digestible. This guy hates Jesus Christ and followers of Him. I get tired of seeing his face on here every few weeks or months. He is not a friend of those who seek real truth.

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flame_whip 11 points ago +12 / -1

Can people PLEASE stop posting Bill Maher on here???

He is a fucking communist pedophile slimeball. Wearing red shoes is the least of what this asshole has gotten up to.

I get so sick of people wanting to praise him and claim him as one of our own every time he sneezes out a tiny bit of truth.

He is a fucking scumbag and we ought to throw him aside like the garbage he is.

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flame_whip 2 points ago +2 / -0

"We defeated the wrong enemy."

~ General George S. Patton (speech given just after the end of the war)

"Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race and we [are] about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it, all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped."

~ General George S. Patton

(July 21, 1945 letter to Beatrice; The Patton Papers 1940-1945, p. 731 by Martin Blumenson)

Many of Patton's other beliefs about the war are revealed here: https://archive.org/details/why-general-patton-was-murdered-by-eustace-mullins-z-lib-org

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flame_whip 3 points ago +3 / -0

"We defeated the wrong enemy."

~ General George S. Patton (speech given just after the end of the war)

"Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race and we [are] about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it, all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped."

~ General George S. Patton

(July 21, 1945 letter to Beatrice; The Patton Papers 1940-1945, p. 731 by Martin Blumenson)

Many of Patton's other beliefs about the war are revealed here: https://archive.org/details/why-general-patton-was-murdered-by-eustace-mullins-z-lib-org

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flame_whip 32 points ago +32 / -0

"We defeated the wrong enemy."

~ General George S. Patton (speech given just after the end of the war)

"Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race and we [are] about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it, all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped."

~ General George S. Patton

(July 21, 1945 letter to Beatrice; The Patton Papers 1940-1945, p. 731 by Martin Blumenson)

Many of Patton's other beliefs about the war are revealed here: https://archive.org/details/why-general-patton-was-murdered-by-eustace-mullins-z-lib-org

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flame_whip 5 points ago +5 / -0

"We defeated the wrong enemy."

~ General George S. Patton (speech given just after the end of the war)

"Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race and we [are] about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it, all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped."

~ General George S. Patton

(July 21, 1945 letter to Beatrice; The Patton Papers 1940-1945, p. 731 by Martin Blumenson)

Many of Patton's other beliefs about the war are revealed here: https://archive.org/details/why-general-patton-was-murdered-by-eustace-mullins-z-lib-org

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