John6:58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”
Transubstantiation must not work. If it did the world would be over run with people who took communion, seeing as how they would live forever. Before you say, "they will live forever in heaven.", the verse does not say "in heaven".
I am not against Jesus, Im against the Catholic Church's account of Jesus. There are many other accounts of Jesus that the C.C's. removed from the NT during all of their Councils. If you were concerned with finding the truth you would study all the accounts, not just the ones the C.C. tells you to study. The first ones you should study are the ones they tell you are evil, like the Gnostic texts and then discern.
You are concerned with disproving, not with understanding truth
Disproving is easy with zero understanding
Oh the ones that reduce Jesus’ claim to Godhood? The ones that did not proliferate in Jesus’ time because they were seen as bogus to those who witnessed the events in question? The ones that the apostles themselves who walked with Jesus had no part in?
You are going to use those to tell me that I am not saved, by the “jesus” that the gnostics reduce to a mere man?
Yah, the ones that were against eating flesh and drinking blood, those fine upstanding people. You mean the 12 apostles who took part in eating flesh and drinking blood? By the way your anti-semitism is showing. Your religion is divisive, some thing Q warned against, but Im guessing you don't care, you'll just believe the parts of Q you agree with and ignore the rest, like you do with Jesus.
You aren't saved. Unless you can explain the "magic" behind your rituals. Or prove to me that those who are "saved" are better off than those who weren't. Kind of convenient that it can't be proven, for the C.C's. benefit.
There you go again with preconceived notions that God and Jesus are one in the same, or whatever the C.C tells you. Sure there are sects of Gnosticism that believe he is a man and some that believe he is a supreme being. My opinion is that the C.C. made Jesus and God one in the same to more easily convert the Jews who believe they should not worship anyone other than God, so therefore they made them one in the same. Tell me again how Christians don't fully understand the trinity but its like the different forms of water.
John6:58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”
Transubstantiation must not work. If it did the world would be over run with people who took communion, seeing as how they would live forever. Before you say, "they will live forever in heaven.", the verse does not say "in heaven".
Jesus speaks of eternity
The second coming of Christ brings about the resurrection of glorified bodies
You are concerned with disproving, not with understanding truth
Disproving is easy with zero understanding
I am not against Jesus, Im against the Catholic Church's account of Jesus. There are many other accounts of Jesus that the C.C's. removed from the NT during all of their Councils. If you were concerned with finding the truth you would study all the accounts, not just the ones the C.C. tells you to study. The first ones you should study are the ones they tell you are evil, like the Gnostic texts and then discern.
I can say the same thing about you.
Oh the ones that reduce Jesus’ claim to Godhood? The ones that did not proliferate in Jesus’ time because they were seen as bogus to those who witnessed the events in question? The ones that the apostles themselves who walked with Jesus had no part in?
You are going to use those to tell me that I am not saved, by the “jesus” that the gnostics reduce to a mere man?
Incredible.
Yah, the ones that were against eating flesh and drinking blood, those fine upstanding people. You mean the 12 apostles who took part in eating flesh and drinking blood? By the way your anti-semitism is showing. Your religion is divisive, some thing Q warned against, but Im guessing you don't care, you'll just believe the parts of Q you agree with and ignore the rest, like you do with Jesus.
You aren't saved. Unless you can explain the "magic" behind your rituals. Or prove to me that those who are "saved" are better off than those who weren't. Kind of convenient that it can't be proven, for the C.C's. benefit.
There you go again with preconceived notions that God and Jesus are one in the same, or whatever the C.C tells you. Sure there are sects of Gnosticism that believe he is a man and some that believe he is a supreme being. My opinion is that the C.C. made Jesus and God one in the same to more easily convert the Jews who believe they should not worship anyone other than God, so therefore they made them one in the same. Tell me again how Christians don't fully understand the trinity but its like the different forms of water.