If no one is held accountable for breaking the previous laws, what makes you think that they won't break the new laws?
Stop kidding yourself and fooling the public!
When will the law breakers from 2020 be held accountable?
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So if everything I described happened already that means our side didn't vote and Trump lost fair and square? Or did you just ignore that part of my comment?
Again, if your response is to not vote then they don't have to cheat and can do an audit that will show them as the ones with the majority vote because they are because you didn't fucking vote. So vote anyway. Obviously voting in a rigged election won't fix anything but the alternative is not voting and if you do that they don't need to rig it and can just keep saying they didn't cheat, which the masses will believe because it's verifiably true. Then all they have to do is memory-hole 2020 and they're good to go. Because you didn't vote. So vote.
You misunderstood my point. What you're suggesting that we should do (which is to vote), has already happened. So why do we need to repeat it when we already have a situation to work from?
I think you misunderstand my point. I'm saying that, assuming nothing gets fixed due to them cheating the first time, you should still vote every time after no matter if they're going to cheat or not. You achieve nothing by not voting except giving the cheaters an easy out in all the proceeding elections since you didn't vote so they can actually win fair and square and flaunt that to keep the normies asleep.
In the worst-case scenario where we don't have enough good guys left or don't have enough public support to do anything about the cheating, the solution isn't to just say fuck it and never vote in the proceeding elections because you know they'll steal it again, as not voting achieves nothing. Now, if we reached this point civil war might be the only option anyway, but short of that if you had to pick between voting or not voting why would you not vote?
Now, personally, I don't think we're in this worst-case situation I just like to point this out whenever I see a "never gonna vote if nothing is fixed" comment.
If you know the votes are rigged, on top of the fact that nothing got fixed and no one got punished, and the results weren't set straight on the record, then doesn't that make you more of a fool than the person who wholeheartedly believes that it wasn't rigged and that they can "get em next time"? How is this not our version of "well, we'll get em next time!"?
What good is doing the same thing over and over again, when the pattern is already established? Of course, everything I say is based on the worst case scenario, where nothing gets fixed. Whereas in reality, we still are in the process and we're just waiting to see what happens now.
Which brings me back to my original point, that it will be a hard sell to patriots to convince them to continue voting if 2020 isn't resolved by 2022 or God forbid, 2024. Trump can say cryptic things, but it has to be backed up by publicly undeniable action, not behind-the-scenes "go look at this alt-news website to find out the truth" bs.
If nothing gets fixed, which was the reasoning behind the guy I replied to saying they wouldn't vote, there are three main options I see for the everyday patriot: 1. Civil War 2. Vote in the next rigged election 3. Don't vote ever again.
If we take out civil war how is "don't vote ever again" the better option out of the remaining two? What does it achieve? What does voting anyway achieve? What downsides do either options have?
The way I see it there's no upside to not voting, only downsides, and the opposite for voting despite the fact you know it's rigged and won't make a difference.