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posted 4 years ago by Restore 4 years ago by Restore +531 / -0
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– ARandomOgre 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I absolutely expect deception from people. I am suspicious of everyone. I wear a mask despite being fully vaccinated because I value my anonymity and will wear one until I am no longer allowed.

I expect deception from Trump. I expect deception from Q. And when what they’re saying doesn’t reflect predictable reality, or if deciphering what they say requires me to assume things I cannot actually prove, then I assume deception instead.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

In my very skeptical world, I am MUCH more ready to assume I’m being lied to by Trump and Q than to assume Trump is a secret codemaster or that Q is making prophecies in 5D nonlinear time. It makes more sense that I’m being lied to.

You keep assuming I have the wrong problem of being too trusting. The problem is quite the opposite. I don’t trust Q and have not seen a single thing he’s written that proves that he’s operating outside of known physics. That’s a sillier answer to me than assuming he’s just a nobody lying on the internet, like 99.999% of the internet.

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– ARandomOgre 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I appreciate that.

I don’t have cable. A lot of my news actually breaks here. You guys almost certainly know more about what’s going on with the MSM than I do.

Reaching the same conclusions as someone else is not an endorsement. I agree with Q that the Earth is not flat, but Q’s opinion on it has nothing to do with my position nor lends any credence to my position.

I am also philosophically pro-life and have infuriated liberals when arguing it with them, but I don’t associate myself with the pro-life movement, because I think almost every argument made by pro-lifers is, at best, ineffective. I share an opinion with pro-lifers, but we aren’t exactly friends.

I share opinions with Trump, and I don’t like the man much.

I share opinions with Trevor Noah, and I’ve never once watched his show.

It’s okay to arrive at my own conclusions without worrying about popular opinion, wouldn’t you agree?

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– ARandomOgre 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Like I said, I really don’t. I know you’d rather believe that people who disagree with what you see as the truth must necessarily be doing so because they’re brainwashed, but it seems extremely possible to me that I am looking at the same things that you are, and I happen to disagree.

And I think I’m rarely failing to demonstrate my thought process in unnecessarily-detailed posts, which would be challenging if I hadn’t actually considered the viewpoints and was merely parroting whatever I saw on Twitter.

My liberal friends need to realize there are non-religious, non-gross-out, non-sexist reasons for questioning the ethics of abortion.

And you need to realize it’s entirely possible that what you’re hearing in the MSM are oversimplified answers to your questions that actually come from smart people who have good justifications for their beliefs.

And that other smart people examine the evidence and also disagree with what you say. And the media can’t argue why, because they don’t care, but are more than happy to say that smart people disagree with you.

That’s why it can be kind of frustrating that you simply dismiss arguments as propaganda of the media. Maybe it is. But if I can back up what you consider to be propaganda with a real logical position, then you haven’t defeated the logic (or proven your own) just by dismissing it as guilt by association.

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