Since March of last year our weekly meeting of about twenty-five has been conducted through MS Teams. Most are engineers, and quite a few have PhDs. I have all but given up given up on trying to red-pill any of them, though I have been forceful enough in the past that they all know where I stand.
Usually I skip the first five minutes of shooting the breeze, because I can't take the sheer stupidity of what gets unquestioningly bandy about. But today I slipped and was only one minute late. A guy who is retiring at the end of the month was relating how he and his wife got jabbed in February, but (surprise) his wife got CV and has been sick for a week. They're still sharing a bed, but no sex. He is getting tested in a few days, and hoping his anti-bodies pull him through.
The ignorance was already pretty thick, but then he said at least her symptoms are less severe than the unvaxxed. And that 98% of those hospitalized with CV are unvaxxed.
This opened the floodgates of speaking in tongues: so-and-sos father died of CV, somebody's father in law died, was going to go home to India but the bodies are stacking up, Indonesia is the new hot spot, on and on. Not a glimmer of awareness of reality, like say, of VAERS, or that new CV cases and deaths have a strong correlation to vaccination adoption.
So depressing. Makes me not give a shit about anything having to do with work, or our software products. Early retirement is looking better and better.
Degreed engineer here. I assure you, many of us are awake.
My right hand engineer also refuses the death jab.
I hear you. I have two engineering, and comp science degrees. I expected what you're seeing from engineers. We have to, as a rule, deal with reality. So even if wrong, the natural inclination is to fairly consider the counter evidence. Why has that instinct gone so wrong with these people?
Fear. I've seen it break people's mind during this whole coof shit show.
I'm a veteran of Iraq. Fear is not something I give into easily if at all.
There's also cultural component to this. I still see the Chinese engineers in my building wearing masks even though the mandate was dropped a month or so ago.
Took a week before the Indians removed their masks whereas the anglo/white/first world people were playing pretend with regards to mask wearing many months ago.
Oh, and the women too. Many of them are still in love with their face diapers.
To be fair I can understand some of the women's love of masks. You don't have to do much makeup when wearing it. Only part of this joke that I liked.
You got me thinking -- if I wore one, I wouldn't have to shave.
I think you have the CV true believer hierarchy right: Chinese > Indian> Anglo with women in general thrown in there near the top.
Only two people in my group are unvaxxed, and we are both white Anglos. Dismally low numbers.