Since March of last year our weekly meeting of about twenty-five has been conducted through MS Teams. Most are engineers, and quite a few have PhDs. I have all but given up given up on trying to red-pill any of them, though I have been forceful enough in the past that they all know where I stand.
Usually I skip the first five minutes of shooting the breeze, because I can't take the sheer stupidity of what gets unquestioningly bandy about. But today I slipped and was only one minute late. A guy who is retiring at the end of the month was relating how he and his wife got jabbed in February, but (surprise) his wife got CV and has been sick for a week. They're still sharing a bed, but no sex. He is getting tested in a few days, and hoping his anti-bodies pull him through.
The ignorance was already pretty thick, but then he said at least her symptoms are less severe than the unvaxxed. And that 98% of those hospitalized with CV are unvaxxed.
This opened the floodgates of speaking in tongues: so-and-sos father died of CV, somebody's father in law died, was going to go home to India but the bodies are stacking up, Indonesia is the new hot spot, on and on. Not a glimmer of awareness of reality, like say, of VAERS, or that new CV cases and deaths have a strong correlation to vaccination adoption.
So depressing. Makes me not give a shit about anything having to do with work, or our software products. Early retirement is looking better and better.
Degreed engineer here. I assure you, many of us are awake.
My right hand engineer also refuses the death jab.
I hear you. I have two engineering, and comp science degrees. I expected what you're seeing from engineers. We have to, as a rule, deal with reality. So even if wrong, the natural inclination is to fairly consider the counter evidence. Why has that instinct gone so wrong with these people?
Fear. I've seen it break people's mind during this whole coof shit show.
I'm a veteran of Iraq. Fear is not something I give into easily if at all.
There's also cultural component to this. I still see the Chinese engineers in my building wearing masks even though the mandate was dropped a month or so ago.
Took a week before the Indians removed their masks whereas the anglo/white/first world people were playing pretend with regards to mask wearing many months ago.
Oh, and the women too. Many of them are still in love with their face diapers.
To be fair I can understand some of the women's love of masks. You don't have to do much makeup when wearing it. Only part of this joke that I liked.
You got me thinking -- if I wore one, I wouldn't have to shave.
I think you have the CV true believer hierarchy right: Chinese > Indian> Anglo with women in general thrown in there near the top.
Only two people in my group are unvaxxed, and we are both white Anglos. Dismally low numbers.
Too much book smarts, no real-world hands-on experience.
Coworker Mechanical Engineer is a loony lefty. Has no idea how to fix his car or house and reads propaganda constantly.
I had forgotten how many of my fellow engineering students were much less handy than me. I'm an electrical engineer, which is fairly abstract, but I could handle a wrench better than many mechanical, aeronautical, civil and industrial engineers.
Much rather hire someone like you than one who works on theory. Probably safer that way for everyone.
Seriously, I had to show this guy where to add coolant to his engine and tell him that he has to dilute it with 50% water. Learned cars and electronics from my dad who is an Electronic Engineer, but I went with the Mechanical path in college.
Yup. I did a 4 year stint in the army as a tank mechanic before I decided to actually finish high school and go to college.
Best way to go. Joining at 17 gave me the time needed to mature, and discover what I wanted to do. Degrees are so overrated, and hands on experienced so undervalued. Inverting the consensus is the way for a business to get top level personnel.
Thank you for your service Sir!
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Married to an engineer. He's quite surprised that some of his colleagues are are so compliant. This bothers him because critical thinking is a bit part of the job.
Nail meet hammer. I was woefully off with the people I thought would keep their shit together during this coof nonsense.
It's disturbing because I see these people I work with differently now and not in a good way.
Yeah, have lost respect for so many.
EE and CS degrees here. The engineering schools are not turning out great engineers and that is reflected in their lack of critical thinking skills. (There are always the exceptions though!)
We had 2 daughters go through an engineering school recently and it was eye-opening as a well-taught engineer to see how they were not taught any more. So many of their peers should not have graduated. My girls often had to teach themselves, which is why they are successful. I can tell you that it is terrifying seeing barely capable civil engineers graduate. One only hopes that they never pass the PE!
Remember also that these newer engineers had to take all the liberal Gen Ed classes unless they test out of them. I had 4 electives as an EE student, decades ago. Now they make them take many more and push summer semesters.
Mech Engineer checking in.
I might work for the same company. 8-(