My Catholic traditional Latin mass parish is based. Never closed, never forced masks (over 90% never did), told us despite what the Pope says, we should not get the vaccine unless we absolutely HAVE TO; it was created using evil means and using evil as a way to bring about good (or perceived good) is not okay.
edit: oh and the Catholic church has been anti-Communist for ages. It's only once the Freemasons finished their infiltration that some parts of the Church went soft on Communism.
Overthrow is Deliberately Planned“… — For, the fear of God and reverence for divine laws being taken away, the authority of rulers despised, sedition permitted and approved, and the popular passions urged on to lawlessness, with no restraint save that of punishment, a change and overthrow of all things will necessarily follow. Yea, this change and overthrow is deliberately planned and put forward by many associations of communists and socialists.”(Encyclical Humanum Genus, April 20, 1884, n. 27)
Debasing the Natural Union of Man and Woman– “They [socialists, communists, or nihilists] debase the natural union of man and woman, which is held sacred even among barbarous peoples; and its bond, by which the family is chiefly held together, they weaken, or even deliver up to lust.(Encyclical Quod Apostolici Muneris, December 28, 1878, n. 1)
The Harvest of Misery“ — …there is need for a union of brave minds with all the resources they can command. The harvest of misery is before our eyes, and the dreadful projects of the most disastrous national upheavals are threatening us from the growing power of the socialistic movement.”(Encyclical Graves de Communi Re, January 18, 1901, n. 21)
SAINT PIUS X (1903-1914)
The Dream of Re-Shaping Society will Bring Socialism — “But stranger still, alarming and saddening at the same time, are the audacity and frivolity of men who call themselves Catholics and dream of re-shaping society under such conditions, and of establishing on earth, over and beyond the pale of the Catholic Church, ‘the reign of love and justice’ … What are they going to produce? … A mere verbal and chimerical construction in which we shall see, glowing in a jumble, and in seductive confusion, the words Liberty, Justice, Fraternity, Love, Equality, and human exultation, all resting upon an ill-understood human dignity. It will be a tumultuous agitation, sterile for the end proposed, but which will benefit the less Utopian exploiters of the people. Yes, we can truly say that the Sillon, its eyes fixed on a chimera, brings Socialism in its train.”
(Apostolic Letter Notre Charge Apostolique [“Our Apostolic Mandate”] to the French Bishops, August 15, 1910, condemning the movement Le Sillon)
BENEDICT XV (1914-1922)
Never Forget the Condemnation of Socialism — “It is not our intention here to repeat the arguments which clearly expose the errors of Socialism and of similar doctrines. Our predecessor, Leo XIII, most wisely did so in truly memorable Encyclicals; and you, Venerable Brethren, will take the greatest care that those grave precepts are never forgotten, but that whenever circumstances call for it, they should be clearly expounded and inculcated in Catholic associations and congresses, in sermons and in the Catholic press.”
(Encyclical Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum, November 1, 1914, n. 13)
Pope Francis has restricted the use of the Latin Mass, a form of the liturgy favored by traditionalist Catholics that calls for the conversion of the Jews and that until 2008 included a reference to Jewish “blindness.”
Francis’ declaration on Friday is a repudiation of an earlier decree by his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, who in 2007 made it easier to use the Latin Mass. At the time of that declaration, Jewish groups expressed concern because the Latin Mass recited on Good Friday included a “prayer for the Jews” that called for their conversion to Christianity and referred to the Jews’ “blindness.”
Jewish groups worried at the time that Benedict’s decision signified a retreat from the Second Vatican Council, or Vatican II, which declared in a 1965 document known as “Nostra Aetate” that the Jews were not guilty of killing Jesus, and condemned antisemitism. Accusations that the Jews killed Jesus have long motivated antisemitic attacks.
In 2008, Benedict reaffirmed his commitment to Nostra Aetate and omitted the word “blindness” from the Good Friday prayer.
Francis said he was restricting use of the Latin Mass out of concern that those who favor it also reject Vatican II, according to the Associated Press. Vatican II made a number of sweeping changes to Catholic ritual and practice — including allowing for Mass to be recited in the vernacular. A faction of Catholics who split from the Church over Vatican II had continued reciting the Latin Mass before Benedict’s declaration.
Now in order to use the Latin Mass, priests must get permission from their local bishop, who must also make sure that those using the Latin Mass accept Vatican II.
Like I said, the parish I attend jumped through these hoops years ago. The FSSP parish which does the Latin Mass was set up with full permission and the blessing of the Vatican and the local bishop a while ago. They've been in full Communion with Rome since the inception.
Does that mean they WON'T get rid of it? Of course there's a chance but like I said, we're not the group the Pope is concerned with. It's those who reject V2 that the Pope is trying to corral. FSSP does not reject V2.
Those that granted the Fraternity are the very same ones that can take it away. And they will.
I doubt it. Time will tell. I'll be the first person to admit you were right if in the future he pulls a stunt like that.
If he is not Catholic already, how can he possibly be pope, the Vicar of Christ? I
He's Catholic so long as he's baptized into the church.
Also, that's assuming he IS the Pope and not an imposter. I'm NOT saying the seat is vacant, as the sedevacantists argue. Rather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh_CIoVvaOk
My Catholic traditional Latin mass parish is based. Never closed, never forced masks (over 90% never did), told us despite what the Pope says, we should not get the vaccine unless we absolutely HAVE TO; it was created using evil means and using evil as a way to bring about good (or perceived good) is not okay.
edit: oh and the Catholic church has been anti-Communist for ages. It's only once the Freemasons finished their infiltration that some parts of the Church went soft on Communism.
https://sensusfidelium.us/freemasonry-communism-homosexuality-the-infiltration-of-the-church-the-holy-face/
LEO XIII (1878-1903)
Overthrow is Deliberately Planned“… — For, the fear of God and reverence for divine laws being taken away, the authority of rulers despised, sedition permitted and approved, and the popular passions urged on to lawlessness, with no restraint save that of punishment, a change and overthrow of all things will necessarily follow. Yea, this change and overthrow is deliberately planned and put forward by many associations of communists and socialists.”(Encyclical Humanum Genus, April 20, 1884, n. 27)
Debasing the Natural Union of Man and Woman– “They [socialists, communists, or nihilists] debase the natural union of man and woman, which is held sacred even among barbarous peoples; and its bond, by which the family is chiefly held together, they weaken, or even deliver up to lust.(Encyclical Quod Apostolici Muneris, December 28, 1878, n. 1)
The Harvest of Misery“ — …there is need for a union of brave minds with all the resources they can command. The harvest of misery is before our eyes, and the dreadful projects of the most disastrous national upheavals are threatening us from the growing power of the socialistic movement.”(Encyclical Graves de Communi Re, January 18, 1901, n. 21)
SAINT PIUS X (1903-1914)
The Dream of Re-Shaping Society will Bring Socialism — “But stranger still, alarming and saddening at the same time, are the audacity and frivolity of men who call themselves Catholics and dream of re-shaping society under such conditions, and of establishing on earth, over and beyond the pale of the Catholic Church, ‘the reign of love and justice’ … What are they going to produce? … A mere verbal and chimerical construction in which we shall see, glowing in a jumble, and in seductive confusion, the words Liberty, Justice, Fraternity, Love, Equality, and human exultation, all resting upon an ill-understood human dignity. It will be a tumultuous agitation, sterile for the end proposed, but which will benefit the less Utopian exploiters of the people. Yes, we can truly say that the Sillon, its eyes fixed on a chimera, brings Socialism in its train.”
(Apostolic Letter Notre Charge Apostolique [“Our Apostolic Mandate”] to the French Bishops, August 15, 1910, condemning the movement Le Sillon)
BENEDICT XV (1914-1922)
Never Forget the Condemnation of Socialism — “It is not our intention here to repeat the arguments which clearly expose the errors of Socialism and of similar doctrines. Our predecessor, Leo XIII, most wisely did so in truly memorable Encyclicals; and you, Venerable Brethren, will take the greatest care that those grave precepts are never forgotten, but that whenever circumstances call for it, they should be clearly expounded and inculcated in Catholic associations and congresses, in sermons and in the Catholic press.”
(Encyclical Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum, November 1, 1914, n. 13)
https://politicalvelcraft.org/catholic-church-vs-freemasons-nwo/
https://rumble.com/vey7p7-the-jewish-founders-of-freemasonry.html
https://rumble.com/vke3hl-1890-catholic-article-the-jewish-question-in-europe-part-1-the-causes.html
Won't happen - https://www.rosary.sg/blogs/news/fssp-says-it-is-deeply-saddened-by-pope-francis-latin-mass-restrictions
The Vatican and local bishop gave permission for this FSSP parish to exist in the first place.
The Pope is trying to get at sedevacantists. We are not sedevacantists.
Also!
https://www.timesofisrael.com/pope-francis-restricts-latin-mass-that-caused-controversy-with-jews/
Like I said, the parish I attend jumped through these hoops years ago. The FSSP parish which does the Latin Mass was set up with full permission and the blessing of the Vatican and the local bishop a while ago. They've been in full Communion with Rome since the inception.
Does that mean they WON'T get rid of it? Of course there's a chance but like I said, we're not the group the Pope is concerned with. It's those who reject V2 that the Pope is trying to corral. FSSP does not reject V2.
I doubt it. Time will tell. I'll be the first person to admit you were right if in the future he pulls a stunt like that.
He's Catholic so long as he's baptized into the church.
Also, that's assuming he IS the Pope and not an imposter. I'm NOT saying the seat is vacant, as the sedevacantists argue. Rather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh_CIoVvaOk