Its good to have the ability to earn as a resource-- the ? is, "how does my personal choice effect society?"
To be "just a housewife" expresses a qualitative view on what the profession of housewifing entails.
What if the job of housewife included lean management, teaching, medicine, junior (or senior) level handyman, researcher, community liason, executive coach (for spouse and grown chldren), therapist, nutritionist, chef, herbalist...... you get my point.
Further, I wish the guys on the thread would abstain from the word "submit". A more accurate word would be to defer on matters that he owns. Listen, let him lead and keep him out of the laundry room!
Dude here. I think after the great awakening it should be a choice whether a woman stays at home or works. I mean this is America. Isn't everyone entitled to the same freedoms to do as they please as long as it doesn't take away freedoms from others? Idk I'm a smooth brain but that's how my dumb brain sees it.
You’re free to make your choices, and I’m free to make mine. Also not trying to make a point that only a college education matters because that’s definitely not true. Trades are far more beneficial and I wish I’d had the option to learn that in high school.
Not all women will do well as mothers. A family friend—may she Rest In Peace—wound up taking in her nephew because he was going to the foster system otherwise. His mother was addicted to multiple substances, as was his father. His father/the foster mom’s brother was coddled and spoiled by their mom. Their dad was incredibly distant. The “smothered” kid wound up terrible—swindling even his own dementia-suffering mom for money in her last months of life. The “black sheep” fought for her nephew while keeping a steady job and raising her own daughters. She left this earth with multiple wonderful mom who are also nurses and teachers.
My grandfather shouldn’t have had children. He was an alcoholic after getting rejected from the priesthood. His family continues to suffer from that fallout. However, the traditional view deems him a solid “man” just because he put food on the table with the money he had left over after booze and taxes. Is that also the woman’s fault for the family’s breakdown?
I may never be able to have children. I may adopt one day, but will only do so if I know I can be financially and emotionally supportive to that child.
If simply being a mother makes you happy? Solid, go for it.
If you can handle both being a mother and being a working woman and that’s what you want? Cool, your choice.
Can’t afford children or have something else going on that you don’t want to subject them to your struggles? Seems responsible not to have them.
This isn’t an argument for abortion, btw, as I’m sure someone will take it that way
The question is, can the children really handle both parents missing from their lives? Can we afford to allow our young to be misled instead by predatory cults running our governments?
I don't disagree with you one bit -- I was simply asking the ? From a moral stance.
See my first sentence: agree with you.
Next sentence explores the effects of exercising one's rights.
I never suggested all women should be domestic engineers (my preferred term). Simply the statement "just a housewife" degrades a vocation that can be both challenging & rewarding
There have always been women working outside the home. The problem is now so many slave away at 2 jobs, few are available to provide the emotional and physical support that kept the family unit strong.
College educated here too. Masters and PhD.
Its good to have the ability to earn as a resource-- the ? is, "how does my personal choice effect society?"
To be "just a housewife" expresses a qualitative view on what the profession of housewifing entails.
What if the job of housewife included lean management, teaching, medicine, junior (or senior) level handyman, researcher, community liason, executive coach (for spouse and grown chldren), therapist, nutritionist, chef, herbalist...... you get my point.
Further, I wish the guys on the thread would abstain from the word "submit". A more accurate word would be to defer on matters that he owns. Listen, let him lead and keep him out of the laundry room!
Dude here. I think after the great awakening it should be a choice whether a woman stays at home or works. I mean this is America. Isn't everyone entitled to the same freedoms to do as they please as long as it doesn't take away freedoms from others? Idk I'm a smooth brain but that's how my dumb brain sees it.
No argument here! Each person chooses on this issue.
If I couldn't work i would have been stuck in an abusive relationship.
The ? Is: why do you work? For stuff? To serve the family? To serve God? What are the consequences of those choices?
When you are clear on the Why, the decision about whether it is selfish, selfless, or a reasonable middle ground becomes clear.
And stop with the accommodations at work for being a Mom or being female! That really drives me nuts :)
You’re free to make your choices, and I’m free to make mine. Also not trying to make a point that only a college education matters because that’s definitely not true. Trades are far more beneficial and I wish I’d had the option to learn that in high school.
Not all women will do well as mothers. A family friend—may she Rest In Peace—wound up taking in her nephew because he was going to the foster system otherwise. His mother was addicted to multiple substances, as was his father. His father/the foster mom’s brother was coddled and spoiled by their mom. Their dad was incredibly distant. The “smothered” kid wound up terrible—swindling even his own dementia-suffering mom for money in her last months of life. The “black sheep” fought for her nephew while keeping a steady job and raising her own daughters. She left this earth with multiple wonderful mom who are also nurses and teachers.
My grandfather shouldn’t have had children. He was an alcoholic after getting rejected from the priesthood. His family continues to suffer from that fallout. However, the traditional view deems him a solid “man” just because he put food on the table with the money he had left over after booze and taxes. Is that also the woman’s fault for the family’s breakdown?
I may never be able to have children. I may adopt one day, but will only do so if I know I can be financially and emotionally supportive to that child.
If simply being a mother makes you happy? Solid, go for it.
If you can handle both being a mother and being a working woman and that’s what you want? Cool, your choice.
Can’t afford children or have something else going on that you don’t want to subject them to your struggles? Seems responsible not to have them.
This isn’t an argument for abortion, btw, as I’m sure someone will take it that way
The question is, can the children really handle both parents missing from their lives? Can we afford to allow our young to be misled instead by predatory cults running our governments?
I don't disagree with you one bit -- I was simply asking the ? From a moral stance.
See my first sentence: agree with you. Next sentence explores the effects of exercising one's rights.
I never suggested all women should be domestic engineers (my preferred term). Simply the statement "just a housewife" degrades a vocation that can be both challenging & rewarding
There have always been women working outside the home. The problem is now so many slave away at 2 jobs, few are available to provide the emotional and physical support that kept the family unit strong.
Blessings to you.
If humanity had waited until economic conditions were right to have children we wouldn't be here, we would have died out a very long time ago.
Then what is the truth
Portuguese woman, that explains how great this post it.