I would like to offer a view that differs in some ways. Not to contradict your faith, but to offer a view that perhaps looks at certain other aspects that can be gleaned from scripture.
I suppose I'm not trying to contradict, but actually I strongly disagree with the view that God gave everything to Satan. That view is NOT held up by scripture.
Rather, the truth, I think is that God created Adam and Eve as his precious, pure children. God gave Adam the authority to "name all things", which indicates that essentially Adam was to be the king of the whole world, the Lord of all God's creation.
As God's son, he stood to inherit everything God had created, but like all wise father's, the Creator knew that without his own responsibility, and heir is not worth too much. That's one reason why God gave Adam the commandment - do not eat of the fruit.
In the state of immaturity, Adam and Eve would be susceptible to temptation. The commandment was to keep them on track. As long as they kept faith in God and his commandment, the devil would not be able to cause them to fall.
What happened? The Archangel Lucifer (symbolized by the "serpent") approached Eve and by lying to her, undermined her faith in God. So he tempted her to "eat" of the fruit. Two things happened. One, Lucifer fell in that moment to become Satan. Two, Eve was 'reborn' as Satan's daughter, now under his influence. Satan used Eve to then approach Adam, to tempt Adam via Eve. She did, and Adam also fell.
Adam was the one given the responsibility to grow to his completion, and then return everything back to God. Then, with Father and Son united, God would rule the world thru Adam. Instead, Adam actually handed over everything to Satan.
Because Adam was in that position, this is how Satan gained control and an illegitimate sovereignty over the world. "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."
Spiritual death is separation from God, and Satan became ruler over the world because the legitimate ruler, Adam, handed it over to him. This is why Satan has a claim.
God did not hand it over, Adam did. We, the descendents of Adam, must take it Back. This is why we must be reborn through Jesus. Jesus reclaimed it all spiritually by salvation through the cross, but because he had to hand over his body to Satan as the price, this is why Christ must return (to reclaim the sovereignty over the physical world, in addition to the sovereignty over the spiritual world that Jesus accomplished via the Cross).
This is why since Jesus, the world has continued under Satan's rule, despite the fact that spiritually, we can be reborn through Jesus & the Holy Spirit. But to be reborn, WE have to choose. Jesus offers us the door, but We must walk through it. Jesus restores what Adam did, but for each of us to escape Adam's (satan's) lineage, we too must choose and step through the door.
I expound some aspects of why this process takes so much time, in the post below:
But think about it. If you rasied your child, and he fell into the ways of corruption, would you be able to just destroy or kill him, and "start over"?
God's creative power comes from his love and his heart. I don't think he could any more destroy his children, or even Lucifer, and start over, than you could take a bucket of gas and burn your own house down.
No, love predominates, and God is love.
And there is another point: God is almighty, absolute, unchanging and eternal. So his laws have to be absolute, unchanging and eternal. That means, if he destroyed his own creation because of something Lucifer did, then that would create the result that Lucifer is a creator like God.
No, the sad and sorrowful history of the providence of salvation, the long suffering of humanity, is testimony to the fact that no matter how difficult or hard, God will do everything to restore his children, and restore his original perfect ideal.
And the reason why it takes so long is none other than this: Human beings (in Adam) we responsible for handing over authority to Lucifer. Thus, under God's leadership, human beings must also take responsibility to recover authority from Lucifer, and return it to God. It's taking so long because God has to train us, step by painful step, sacrifice by painful sacrifice, to do that which Adam would have originally done.
As the Parent, God took responsibility and brought Christ, which models and shows the way, but we have to go that way to resolve the situation.
Which is here we are today. We MUST stand up, in God, in the spirit of His love and truth, representing Christ, and reclaim the planet from the evil children who serve Lucifer.
Hi Relhok,
I would like to offer a view that differs in some ways. Not to contradict your faith, but to offer a view that perhaps looks at certain other aspects that can be gleaned from scripture.
I suppose I'm not trying to contradict, but actually I strongly disagree with the view that God gave everything to Satan. That view is NOT held up by scripture.
Rather, the truth, I think is that God created Adam and Eve as his precious, pure children. God gave Adam the authority to "name all things", which indicates that essentially Adam was to be the king of the whole world, the Lord of all God's creation.
As God's son, he stood to inherit everything God had created, but like all wise father's, the Creator knew that without his own responsibility, and heir is not worth too much. That's one reason why God gave Adam the commandment - do not eat of the fruit.
In the state of immaturity, Adam and Eve would be susceptible to temptation. The commandment was to keep them on track. As long as they kept faith in God and his commandment, the devil would not be able to cause them to fall.
What happened? The Archangel Lucifer (symbolized by the "serpent") approached Eve and by lying to her, undermined her faith in God. So he tempted her to "eat" of the fruit. Two things happened. One, Lucifer fell in that moment to become Satan. Two, Eve was 'reborn' as Satan's daughter, now under his influence. Satan used Eve to then approach Adam, to tempt Adam via Eve. She did, and Adam also fell.
Adam was the one given the responsibility to grow to his completion, and then return everything back to God. Then, with Father and Son united, God would rule the world thru Adam. Instead, Adam actually handed over everything to Satan.
Because Adam was in that position, this is how Satan gained control and an illegitimate sovereignty over the world. "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."
Spiritual death is separation from God, and Satan became ruler over the world because the legitimate ruler, Adam, handed it over to him. This is why Satan has a claim.
God did not hand it over, Adam did. We, the descendents of Adam, must take it Back. This is why we must be reborn through Jesus. Jesus reclaimed it all spiritually by salvation through the cross, but because he had to hand over his body to Satan as the price, this is why Christ must return (to reclaim the sovereignty over the physical world, in addition to the sovereignty over the spiritual world that Jesus accomplished via the Cross).
This is why since Jesus, the world has continued under Satan's rule, despite the fact that spiritually, we can be reborn through Jesus & the Holy Spirit. But to be reborn, WE have to choose. Jesus offers us the door, but We must walk through it. Jesus restores what Adam did, but for each of us to escape Adam's (satan's) lineage, we too must choose and step through the door.
I expound some aspects of why this process takes so much time, in the post below:
https://greatawakening.win/p/12izuPiIYz/why-judgment-takes-time-holding-/
I think that is a reasonable point.
But think about it. If you rasied your child, and he fell into the ways of corruption, would you be able to just destroy or kill him, and "start over"?
God's creative power comes from his love and his heart. I don't think he could any more destroy his children, or even Lucifer, and start over, than you could take a bucket of gas and burn your own house down.
No, love predominates, and God is love.
And there is another point: God is almighty, absolute, unchanging and eternal. So his laws have to be absolute, unchanging and eternal. That means, if he destroyed his own creation because of something Lucifer did, then that would create the result that Lucifer is a creator like God.
No, the sad and sorrowful history of the providence of salvation, the long suffering of humanity, is testimony to the fact that no matter how difficult or hard, God will do everything to restore his children, and restore his original perfect ideal.
And the reason why it takes so long is none other than this: Human beings (in Adam) we responsible for handing over authority to Lucifer. Thus, under God's leadership, human beings must also take responsibility to recover authority from Lucifer, and return it to God. It's taking so long because God has to train us, step by painful step, sacrifice by painful sacrifice, to do that which Adam would have originally done.
As the Parent, God took responsibility and brought Christ, which models and shows the way, but we have to go that way to resolve the situation.
Which is here we are today. We MUST stand up, in God, in the spirit of His love and truth, representing Christ, and reclaim the planet from the evil children who serve Lucifer.