A reasonable, responsible government that actually cared about people's lives would not be screaming "HORSE DEWORMER, HORSE DEWORMER!"
A reasonable, responsible government would be saying exactly this:
"Even though ivermectin has not been approved by the FDA to treat covid-19, there is still some evidence to suggest it can help reduce the severity and duration of illness. If you attempt to use Ivermectin formulated for large farm animals, make sure to reduce the dosage accordingly to adjust for human body weight so you do do not overdose on medication."
But no, they started screaming, "HORSE DEWORMER!!!"
I hate these people.
As I've mentioned before, a "filler" ingredient for a horse is not necessarily inactive in a human.
Example: theobromine. It's in chocolate.
It's not an active ingredient in humans. We eat it, we metabolize it, and it passes through with no interesting effects.
You give it to a dog, and it will kill them, because they cannot metabolize it. Because their body chemistry is different.
Theobromine is inactive in humans and in products that humans eat without us even noticing.
Theobromine is active in dogs, and therefore, would be listed as being present in ANYTHING that is marketed around pet supplies.
"Filler" that has been tested as boring, inactive ingredient in a horse, but has NOT been tested in a human, CANNOT then logically be said to be inactive in a human.
Because it hasn't been tested.
You guys want years and years of more tests for the vaccine before you'd consider it even remotely safe or worthy of FDA approval. This shouldn't be a particularly difficult point for me to make regarding unknown potentially active, untested ingredients in horse medication, but again, it's your choice on what risks you choose to take.
Trying to equate theobromine with filler materials used to make the substance into a paste, or apple flavoring, is laughable and just makes you look stupid.
There's no mystery substance in there that's going to kill humans dead, and you just look like an idiot for gaslighting us.
Then you must work for the horse dewormer companies and could potentially identify the chemical components of the proprietary substances listed on your MSDS that were not tested nor classified.
If you can provide me with the chemical formulae of those substances, I can run a secondary MSDS check on them and tell you what I come up with. I have some time today.
No, it's just that there's no logical reason to believe there would be anything other than a paste of some kind, which is probably made out of food grade ingredients, which renders the consistency they want it to be, and some flavoring, which is probably also food grade.
There's no logical reason to expect any other "mystery" ingredients there that will be highly toxic to humans, and I disagree that chocolate is a good example. Food grade pastes are common in pharmaceuticals and food, and there's no logical reason to expect why one food grade paste filler material would be toxic to humans and unsafe to use.
You're putting up some air of mystery around it that is unwarranted and unreasonable and it just kind of makes you look stupid. You're like the the Wizard in Oz putting up this big show but behind the curtain there isn't a goddamn thing.
I'll bet you anything the paste they use to thicken it is mostly freaking cornstarch. Lmfao
What you believe to be a logical assumption is not really an argument when it comes to things like this.
You believe that there's no logical reason that this paste would be harmful to humans.
The people who made this saw no logical reason to test this paste on people, to care what sort of ingredients might be harmful to humans, and so forth.
Also, "highly toxic" is a matter of dosage, and since you don't know the dosage of the other ingredients in the paste that may be potentially active in humans, you have no way to determine whether or not you're ingesting a potentially toxic dose of a "low" toxicity proprietary ingredient that, again, has never been tested in humans.
At the end of the day, I don't tend to put things into my body that don't even have a complete MSDS sheet filled out on them.
You will put such things into your body.
That's just a difference between us. And you can disagree with me about our willingness to risk it, but I think people should have an informed consent, and while you are consenting, it's impossible for you to be informed when the information needed for you to consent doesn't even exist.
As proven by the MSDS sheet that YOU provided to this conversation.
But we're going in circles. Like I said, take the risk if you wish. Just trying to make sure people are getting the full information about the risk they're taking before they decide whether or not it's worth it.
And if you're asking me whether or not I'd bet my life on that logic, you can be DAMN SURE I WOULD.
And also, if the substance WERE extremely dangerous, you can bet your ass they'd be in a real big hurry to classify it. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. If it's not poisoning anyone, they won't bother to classify it because there's no need.