I did a quick search on duck duck go and came up with the three answers. Do your own research if you don't believe me.. I am sure you could find your own answers if you wished to. My initial source may not have been good...but maybe my next one can help you out.
The mRNA is NOT officially a vaccine. Apparently you did not read the article I linked to earlier:
"However such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both Vaccines" Thus what I said before. Thus the mRNA still uses fetal cells in it's development.
From this paragraph:
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were found to be ethically uncontroversial by the pro-life policy organization the Charlotte Lozier Institute. Further, the Secretariat of Pro-Life Activities, a committee within the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, has stated: “neither Pfizer nor Moderna used an abortion-derived cell line in the development or production of the vaccine.
However, such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both vaccines.
Thus, while neither vaccine is completely free from any use of abortion-derived cell lines, in these two cases the use is very remote from the initial evil of the abortion...one may receive any of the clinically recommended vaccines in good conscience with the assurance that reception of such vaccines does not involve immoral cooperation in abortion.”
Again, it contains fetal cell linings. I say this again not because the difference is substantial to me, but because you're claiming something that is false. The truth matters. Having pointless falsehoods such as this in a comment allows others to poke against your argument, when it is entirely avoidable by just making sure you stick to the facts.
The mRNA is NOT officially a vaccine. Apparently you did not read the article I linked to earlier:
Not my point - you seem to be incredibly defensive and acting like I'm in favor of these, "vaccines." Note this is the SECOND time I put that in quotes.
"However such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both Vaccines" Thus what I said before. Thus the mRNA still uses fetal cells in it's development.
Only in development, which doesn't mean it's used in the final production. Again my point here is only for you to be completely truthful. Apparently a lot of people on this site don't seem to get that, and try to argue with anyone who dares to question them, so I'm making this painfully obvious in this comment.
From this paragraph:
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were found to be ethically uncontroversial by the pro-life policy organization the Charlotte Lozier Institute. Further, the Secretariat of Pro-Life Activities, a committee within the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, has stated: “neither Pfizer nor Moderna used an abortion-derived cell line in the development or production of the vaccine.
Regardless of what the Conference of Catholic Bishops has to say (I am RC); Using an aborted fetal cell to design ANY medicine makes these shots unconscionable to me. And they did use them in their development.
They lied when they say fetal cell lines are NOT used in the development of the product, when it is!
I already mentioned earlier that fetal cells are NOT in the final mRNA product but they were USED in their development.
Just so ya know many Bishops and Priests in the Catholic Church are already on the dark side. We won't even talk about the Vatican and the Pope.
Just so ya know many Bishops and Priests in the Catholic Church are already on the dark side. We won't even talk about the Vatican and the Pope.
Well that's because the Catholic Church is basically a cult. Jesus didn't teach Catholicism. That's a whole other can of worms so I won't get into all of it but I would highly suggest you review why you follow Catholicism instead of simply The Word of God.
And again, my point about the fetal cell differences is not because I think one is okay and one isn't, but that your future posts are 100% accurate and not misleading. That was my only point, ever since the beginning. Thanks pede for the civil conversation! God Bless.
I still don't get how my original post was misleading. Unless you think one has to provide research for every statement one makes. But whatever.
All religion is man made. It truly doesn't matter which church or religion you go to. Any of them can be tainted. What is most important is your relationship to God.
As for the Catholic Church, I am a born again Catholic who actually reads their bible. I considered leaving the church once and was thinking of becoming a Baptist.
But I was Baptized and raised Catholic. I went to parochial school for 8 years. And the rites are familiar to me. Besides It is the only Church that believes the host and the wine are the actual body and blood of Christ. We believe in the Holy Trinity. Which is essential to my faith.
I go to a church mainly to minister to others, be able to express my faith with others, and to also have others minister to me when needed.
FWIW there are good Catholics and priests out there. You just have to find them. My little Catholic Church here in the country is filled with devout Catholics. I left my Catholic Church in NY when it became a cesspool of Globalism promoting social justice, climate change, and pushing Obamacare. Not to mention our organist was a cross dresser. Yup... he actually wore high heels and a feather boa for Christmas and came to get communion. So it was if the church was recognizing this as normal behavior. Our Bishop up there was corrupt, too, hiding and moving pedophile priests.
FWIW there are many other churches that are tainted. But NOT all.
I did a quick search on duck duck go and came up with the three answers. Do your own research if you don't believe me.. I am sure you could find your own answers if you wished to. My initial source may not have been good...but maybe my next one can help you out.
All flu vaccines contain fetal cells. That is a fact. Even the CDC admitted it https://www.thestandardsc.org/baxter-dmitry/cdc-admit-vaccines-contain-aborted-human-fetus-cells/
As a vaccine so does J&J and the Catholic Church even told Catholics not to take it. https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/health/2021/03/04/bishops-tell-catholics-to-avoid-johnson---johnson-vaccine-if-possible
The mRNA is NOT officially a vaccine. Apparently you did not read the article I linked to earlier:
"However such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both Vaccines" Thus what I said before. Thus the mRNA still uses fetal cells in it's development.
From this paragraph:
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were found to be ethically uncontroversial by the pro-life policy organization the Charlotte Lozier Institute. Further, the Secretariat of Pro-Life Activities, a committee within the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, has stated: “neither Pfizer nor Moderna used an abortion-derived cell line in the development or production of the vaccine.
However, such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both vaccines.
Thus, while neither vaccine is completely free from any use of abortion-derived cell lines, in these two cases the use is very remote from the initial evil of the abortion...one may receive any of the clinically recommended vaccines in good conscience with the assurance that reception of such vaccines does not involve immoral cooperation in abortion.”
No, that's not how this works. You made a claim, you're expected to support it.
I'm not disputing this - We're not talking about flu vaccines or anything other than the three mentioned in your original comment.
Again, it contains fetal cell linings. I say this again not because the difference is substantial to me, but because you're claiming something that is false. The truth matters. Having pointless falsehoods such as this in a comment allows others to poke against your argument, when it is entirely avoidable by just making sure you stick to the facts.
Not my point - you seem to be incredibly defensive and acting like I'm in favor of these, "vaccines." Note this is the SECOND time I put that in quotes.
Only in development, which doesn't mean it's used in the final production. Again my point here is only for you to be completely truthful. Apparently a lot of people on this site don't seem to get that, and try to argue with anyone who dares to question them, so I'm making this painfully obvious in this comment.
We've covered this above.
Regardless of what the Conference of Catholic Bishops has to say (I am RC); Using an aborted fetal cell to design ANY medicine makes these shots unconscionable to me. And they did use them in their development.
They lied when they say fetal cell lines are NOT used in the development of the product, when it is!
I already mentioned earlier that fetal cells are NOT in the final mRNA product but they were USED in their development.
Just so ya know many Bishops and Priests in the Catholic Church are already on the dark side. We won't even talk about the Vatican and the Pope.
Well that's because the Catholic Church is basically a cult. Jesus didn't teach Catholicism. That's a whole other can of worms so I won't get into all of it but I would highly suggest you review why you follow Catholicism instead of simply The Word of God.
And again, my point about the fetal cell differences is not because I think one is okay and one isn't, but that your future posts are 100% accurate and not misleading. That was my only point, ever since the beginning. Thanks pede for the civil conversation! God Bless.
I still don't get how my original post was misleading. Unless you think one has to provide research for every statement one makes. But whatever.
All religion is man made. It truly doesn't matter which church or religion you go to. Any of them can be tainted. What is most important is your relationship to God.
As for the Catholic Church, I am a born again Catholic who actually reads their bible. I considered leaving the church once and was thinking of becoming a Baptist.
But I was Baptized and raised Catholic. I went to parochial school for 8 years. And the rites are familiar to me. Besides It is the only Church that believes the host and the wine are the actual body and blood of Christ. We believe in the Holy Trinity. Which is essential to my faith.
I go to a church mainly to minister to others, be able to express my faith with others, and to also have others minister to me when needed.
FWIW there are good Catholics and priests out there. You just have to find them. My little Catholic Church here in the country is filled with devout Catholics. I left my Catholic Church in NY when it became a cesspool of Globalism promoting social justice, climate change, and pushing Obamacare. Not to mention our organist was a cross dresser. Yup... he actually wore high heels and a feather boa for Christmas and came to get communion. So it was if the church was recognizing this as normal behavior. Our Bishop up there was corrupt, too, hiding and moving pedophile priests.
FWIW there are many other churches that are tainted. But NOT all.