Mask mandates are coming back, the jab mandates are being enforced, schools are going virtual. I hope we are getting close because we are all about to get backed in a corner. My employer has not mandated the jab yet but if you have to be in the community you have to have the vaccine. If you don’t have it they won’t allow you to do a major part of your job function which will probably be grounds for termination.
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That's where you're wrong.
Pre-Tribulation rapture is not Biblical. John Nelson Darby was a Theosophist.
Come out of Babylon.
Yeah, the book of Revelation is pretty clear on how this ain’t fun for no one. There are the 144 thousand mentioned in Revelation 7 and 14. They are symbolized as virgin male Hebrews. Everyone seems to interpret this differently. I would think it’s symbolic, not literal like everything else in the book. They get protection. Drop in the bucket of 7 billion people.
90% of the people die. Mostly killed by God for their persecution of the saints. The last ten percent can’t even kill themselves because God turns off the death spigot to keep Noah’s rainbow promise.
It is not a good time for anyone. Everyone finds out who they really are and what they really believe.
two pre trib downvoters mad
I wonder if they wear their masks to Babylonian Sunday School.
I disagree with you. Everyone has their understanding and interpretation of how they see it. In my view it doesn't matter when it happens, pre, mid, or post. I'm solid in my faith. But through my study of things to come I def see it this way.
It matters deeply if you believe the Antichrist is the Messiah because you haven't studied your Bible. Knowing how things happen in what order prevents one from being deceived.
Luke 21:8-19
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
Listen I don't know when the rapture occurs. I have chosen what I bekeove from my studying. If I'm wrong then it changes nothing for me. I am on this ride with Jesus til the very end. . Either of the options is possible because it does not say. I am not disputing there will be persecution. Always has been and always will be. Imagine a world full of people who see the rapture take place and say " damn this is real" seems to me that those verses could apply to them as well as all of us.
All I am trying to relay is that nobody knows.... and you saying you do is a lie.. you can make up your mind and theory as well as anybody. But you coming at me on a forum, accusing me of not reading my Bible and being very condescending is a bad trait.
The God of the Bible makes a tremendous promise-
Isaiah 46:9-11
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
If we study prophecy, we do know. We know the Antichrist will pretend to be God. A third temple will be built in Jerusalem and the Antichrist, not Yahshua, will make himself known to the world. We know the Antichrist comes first, before the Second Coming.
Matthew 24:24-31
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
The only thing we don't know is the time or the hour.
Antichrist is the messiah?? Are you saying Jesus is the antichrist ? Are accusing me of thinking such a thing? Your confusing. There are many theory of how it will go down. Accusing me of not studying my Bible is just dumb... I have trouble even replying to people like you who aren't engaged in discussion but live a "I KNOW EVERYTHING" attitude.
I think he’s just saying don’t get caught up in non Biblical teachings. Rapture is a non Biblical teaching. Revelation 7 and 14 talks about who will be protected but nothing about them being taken to a place of safety. It sounds more like they are protected where they find themselves. They are symbolized as male virgin Hebrews.
Nothing about them being lifted up into the air.
There are a couple of verses outside of Revelation that sound like people just disappearing. These are used to setup the belief in the Rapture. But a lot of assumptions have to be made to get their with these verses.
Hope springs eternal.
We will all be tested.
I'm quoting the Word. The Word knows everything.
And when I say "You," I'm speaking of "You" as in someone who believes the Antichrist is the Messiah because they haven't studied the Word. I pray you're not deceived if there's no pre-Tribulation rapture, which is why I'm adamant about spreading the truth.
Iron sharpens iron. You should be able to quote the verses that support your beliefs.
The main thing is some people will believe the Antichrist is Christ because he's going to pretend to be Christ and will attempt to establish a 1000 year reign (which is mentioned in the Bible, by the way). What better way to fool the people than to use Project Blue Beam to simulate the second coming, and announce all the pedophiles have been executed, all the bankers have been destroyed, etc..
Hitler spoke fondly of the Thousand Year Reich for a reason, and it's not like the Nazis who joined the CIA after WWII have forgotten about it.
Not Darby. Tertillian, Origen, and other older Christians speak of a pre trib rapture. It is hidden in the Bible many places if you care to look.
"Origen was well versed in Pagan symbology, having begun his career as a philosopher"
(Isis Unveiled, Vol. 1 Page 298 By H.P. Blavatsky)
"In the "fall of of Adam" we must see, not the personal transgression of man. ...Philo represents the story of the Fall as symbolical, and Origen regarded it as an allegory."
(Isis Unveiled, by H.P. Blavatsky Vol. 2 Page 277,546)
"Freemasonry, is derived from this, in the sense used in the Mysteries. Therefore, when Paul entitles himself a 'master-builder," he is using a word pre-eminently kabalistic, theurgic, and masonic, and one which no other apostle uses. He thus declares himself an Adept, having the right to initiate others. 'We speak wisdom', says Paul, 'among them that are perfect' (or initiated). What Paul preached was preached by every other mystic philosopher. ... As we have eleswhere shown, the primitive Christian community was composed of small groups scattered about and organized in secret societies, with passwords, grips and signs. ...Also Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and others of the fathers drank deeply from the fountains of philosophy"
(Isis Unveiled, By H.P.Blavatsky Vol 2 page 84,85,89,90,91,111,145and 335)
Helena Blavatsky is also a Theosophist, so this comes as no surprise.
Pre-Tribulation is the only interpretation.
https://www.gotquestions.org/rapture-tribulation.html
There's a very clear distinction between the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. Christ meets us "in the air" for Rapture and does not descend all the way to Earth. The Second Coming clearly involves Jesus on the Earth itself, and the goals of both events are very different.
https://www.gotquestions.org/rapture-of-the-church.html
https://biblia.com/bible/esv/matthew/24/38-39 https://biblia.com/bible/esv/1-thessalonians/5/9
Again, Jesus spares us from the wrath of Tribulation.
Very first line in the second article-
"The word rapture does not occur in the Bible."
And then it links to the first article you posted that states the following-
"The timing of the rapture in relation to the tribulation is one of the most controversial issues in the church today. The three primary views are pre-tribulational (the rapture occurs before the tribulation), mid-tribulational (the rapture occurs at or near the mid-point of the tribulation), and post-tribulational (the rapture occurs at the end of the tribulation)."
https://www.gotquestions.org/rapture-tribulation.html
How does your source prove anything? And why isn't your source the Bible?
I honestly could care less what the Dallas Theological Seminary or any of the 501(c)3 Babylon churches who endorse the vaccine have to say about Biblical interpretation.
Yes? What's your point? We call it the Rapture but the Greek and Hebrew use a more literal sense.
Again, what's your point? There's an entire article that you're just ignoring by this nitpicking.
Are you illiterate, or are you just being coy? This clearly makes an argument by citing Bible verses.
No idea what you're coming from, here. Simply because a church gets tax exemptions you claim that it's a false church? That's not what Babylon in Revelations is referring to in the slightest.
You've also completely failed to make even an attempt at the points made in these articles, or the things I've written myself. You're not being genuine in the slightest. You're behaving like a toddler screaming, "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA!"
For starters, your article states the following-
"First, it is important to recognize the purpose of the tribulation. According to Daniel 9:27, there is a seventieth “seven” (seven years) that is still yet to come. Daniel’s entire prophecy of the seventy sevens (Daniel 9:20-27) is speaking of the nation of Israel. It is a time period in which God focuses His attention especially on Israel. The seventieth seven, the tribulation, must also be a time when God deals specifically with Israel. While this does not necessarily indicate that the church could not also be present, it does bring into question why the church would need to be on the earth during that time."
Daniel 9:24-27
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Daniel 9:24-27 is an interpretation of a vision Daniel had provided by the angel Gabriel. It's written in chiastic structure, much like the Book of Revelation is. The start of the 490 year prophecy began when the order to restore Jerusalem was issued in 457 BC by Antaxerxes. It predicts the reconstruction of the temple, the arrival and crucifixion of Christ, and the end of the nation of Israel.
Christ's public ministry began in 27 AD, after he was baptized by John the Baptist, which was exactly 483 years after the beginning of the prophecy. (And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:)
When Jesus was crucified in the midst of the week (the week being the 7 years), this surely brought an end to the sacrificial system, as it reached it's fulfillment in Him.
In his mercy, the Messiah gave the nation of Israel an additional 3.5 years to accept Him as their Savior, even after they crucified Him. In the end, when the high priest of Israel ordered Stephen to be stoned after sharing the Gospel, Israel, the natural branch, was cut off and salvation was opened to all of mankind AKA the Gentiles.
Acts 7 is where you can read what Stephen spoke to the high priest that caused him to be stoned. Notice Saul, who became Paul, witnessed this stoning (and possibly participated in it).
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+7&version=KJV
So, no, those 7 years didn't magically move into the future as your source claims. It's impossible if you acknowledge the chiastic structure of the original Hebrew.
Also, the Dallas Theological Seminary was founded by Freemasons and the CEO of https://www.gotquestions.org/about.html is pursuing his Masters there.