So are we going with "gain of function lab-leak virus theory" or are we going with "theres never been a virus theory"?
What about muh patents for covid virus thats been circulating around??
Is there no medical research biologist in here that can clarify if its possible to isolate whole virus' from infected patients? I've heard the counter to this "never been isolated theory" is that when the virus is in the host, it gets attacked by the immune system so its harder to find just one whole virus, only bits and pieces of it can be found.
Any legitimacy to this?
Also to be clear, whole intact sarscov2 does exist thats been cultured using cell lines and other reagents. The "never been isolated theory" seems to want to say its never been isolated without contamination from other "products".
It says the whole genome was sequenced. The "no isolated virus" theories Ive seen argue that there has never been any virus isolated from an infected patient WITHOUT using a cell medium. However, by definition a virus needs a host cell in order to replicate? Not arguing, just want to get to the bottom of it like everyone else here. But I'm afraid this "no isolated virus theory" is sounding more and more like its made to make us look dumb.
yeah the anti-germ theory folks have it in their heads that since viruses must be grown on a cell medium that medium prevents you from ever having "pure virus" to analyze. they are missing the forest for the trees.
All speculative, gin up a statistical model and do cell cultures of your model. It has not been isolated. Sequencing is hypothetical, based on statistical probabilities. If they had a sample from which they could actually sequence they would have done so. Snake language.
So are we going with "gain of function lab-leak virus theory" or are we going with "theres never been a virus theory"?
What about muh patents for covid virus thats been circulating around??
Is there no medical research biologist in here that can clarify if its possible to isolate whole virus' from infected patients? I've heard the counter to this "never been isolated theory" is that when the virus is in the host, it gets attacked by the immune system so its harder to find just one whole virus, only bits and pieces of it can be found.
Any legitimacy to this?
Also to be clear, whole intact sarscov2 does exist thats been cultured using cell lines and other reagents. The "never been isolated theory" seems to want to say its never been isolated without contamination from other "products".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/
It says the whole genome was sequenced. The "no isolated virus" theories Ive seen argue that there has never been any virus isolated from an infected patient WITHOUT using a cell medium. However, by definition a virus needs a host cell in order to replicate? Not arguing, just want to get to the bottom of it like everyone else here. But I'm afraid this "no isolated virus theory" is sounding more and more like its made to make us look dumb.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/
yeah the anti-germ theory folks have it in their heads that since viruses must be grown on a cell medium that medium prevents you from ever having "pure virus" to analyze. they are missing the forest for the trees.
All speculative, gin up a statistical model and do cell cultures of your model. It has not been isolated. Sequencing is hypothetical, based on statistical probabilities. If they had a sample from which they could actually sequence they would have done so. Snake language.