Here is what I have gathered so far, from the normie perspective and someone who has been waiting for this audit as long as you have.
Their count shows that Biden won the election, by more votes than was originally thought.
They then spent a lot of time suggesting means by which things COULD have happened. They pointed to a few doors they suggested were unlocked and could have allowed someone access.
They did not prove that anybody actually walked through those doors and committed fraud. They said there were some things they couldn't prove were innocent, but nothing that lacked any plausible innocent explanation.
Without that, the count is what it is. Throwing votes out means proving fraud occurred on them, not that it COULD have occurred. No vote is going to be trashed merely on the basis of a non-unique user account.
What has been found is both encouraging and revealing. On the positive side there were no substantial differences between the hand count of the ballots provided and the official election canvass results for Maricopa County. This is an
important finding because the paper ballots are the best evidence of voter intent and there is no reliable evidence that the paper ballots were altered to any material degree.
So no votes appear to have been changed. The duplicates that were found appeared to favor Trump, not Biden (see CyberNinjas presentation 1 slide 17). The counts matched what Maricopa says it was.
What really was needed here in order to change things was proof that fraud occurred, not that it could have occurred. I know you guys feel like there was some good stuff in there, but the questions that this audit is asking should result in what, exactly? Another audit? This was their chance to show the evidence that fraud actually occurred, and instead, they're only suggesting that it COULD have occurred, and that they need more investigations.
As far as Cyber Ninjas is concerned, it appears they've given you as much as they can with regards to the real AZ results.
Every word. And I've read a bit of the documentation, too, although as of a few minutes ago, the third document was not working on their link. I've been waiting for this audit for months, of course I watched it.
I guess I can't change your understanding of what you've seen and read. Guess we will find out in the next few weeks if the Arizona senate agrees with you.
Oh, I'm sure it won't just be the Senate. If anyone actually decides to try to use this to decertify the election, it'll end up in court. Because of course it will. The claims being made by Cyber Ninjas are claims that can be examined forensically in court, and if their claims are wrong, then the calls to decertify the election would be based on evidence that is wrong.
So, court.
There's no way to avoid this, regardless of the authority either side claims to have.
And in court, Cyber Ninjas (and the AZ Senate) will have to back up their claim that decertifying the election is an appropriate response to Cyber Ninjas saying that there was the POTENTIAL for fraud, even though no actual fraud was proven, by their own report.
If the AZ Senate wants to continue fighting this, it goes to court. Inevitably.
Here is what I have gathered so far, from the normie perspective and someone who has been waiting for this audit as long as you have.
Their count shows that Biden won the election, by more votes than was originally thought.
They then spent a lot of time suggesting means by which things COULD have happened. They pointed to a few doors they suggested were unlocked and could have allowed someone access.
They did not prove that anybody actually walked through those doors and committed fraud. They said there were some things they couldn't prove were innocent, but nothing that lacked any plausible innocent explanation.
Without that, the count is what it is. Throwing votes out means proving fraud occurred on them, not that it COULD have occurred. No vote is going to be trashed merely on the basis of a non-unique user account.
https://c692f527-da75-4c86-b5d1-8b3d5d4d5b43.filesusr.com/ugd/2f3470_a91b5cd3655445b498f9acc63db35afd.pdf
So no votes appear to have been changed. The duplicates that were found appeared to favor Trump, not Biden (see CyberNinjas presentation 1 slide 17). The counts matched what Maricopa says it was.
https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/cyber-ninjas-report
What really was needed here in order to change things was proof that fraud occurred, not that it could have occurred. I know you guys feel like there was some good stuff in there, but the questions that this audit is asking should result in what, exactly? Another audit? This was their chance to show the evidence that fraud actually occurred, and instead, they're only suggesting that it COULD have occurred, and that they need more investigations.
As far as Cyber Ninjas is concerned, it appears they've given you as much as they can with regards to the real AZ results.
Lol, what? Did you even watch the presentation?
Every word. And I've read a bit of the documentation, too, although as of a few minutes ago, the third document was not working on their link. I've been waiting for this audit for months, of course I watched it.
I guess I can't change your understanding of what you've seen and read. Guess we will find out in the next few weeks if the Arizona senate agrees with you.
Oh, I'm sure it won't just be the Senate. If anyone actually decides to try to use this to decertify the election, it'll end up in court. Because of course it will. The claims being made by Cyber Ninjas are claims that can be examined forensically in court, and if their claims are wrong, then the calls to decertify the election would be based on evidence that is wrong.
So, court.
There's no way to avoid this, regardless of the authority either side claims to have.
And in court, Cyber Ninjas (and the AZ Senate) will have to back up their claim that decertifying the election is an appropriate response to Cyber Ninjas saying that there was the POTENTIAL for fraud, even though no actual fraud was proven, by their own report.
If the AZ Senate wants to continue fighting this, it goes to court. Inevitably.