He posted a picture in our group chat, which is old friends, that included 3 charts.

1. Comparing no dose, single dose and double dosed case rate per 100k

2. Comparing no dose, single dose, and double dosed ICU/hospitalizations

3. Comparing age groups and vaccine status (irrelevant)

He tried to point out that the jab is working based on the fact that the "unvaxxed" are showing high rates of cases and hospitalizations/ICU admission.

Now based on the chart, he was right. However, I asked a simple set of questions and I suggest you to ask these as well. They cannot argue against them.

1. What was the ratio of the total number of people tested?

Example: 10k tested, 1k positive, 800 unvaxxed, 200 vaxxed. Ratio of 80:20 is given. However, you only get the true ratio once the ratio of the total is given (which no government gives). Because if 8k people were unvaxxed (out of the 10k total) and 2k were vaxxed, we get a ratio of 80:20 total tested. Meaning theoretically if the ratio was 50:50 for total tests, we could get a positive result of 50:50.

Normie chat member not able to answer the first question

2. Can you subtract the number of people in the pool of unvaccinated positive cases who were single dosed but < 15 days? Note: They don't count you as partially vaxxed between 0-13 days. Only on the 15th day are you considered single dosed I asked this question to make it apparent to him that transparency is vital.

Normie chat member not able to answer the second question

3. Can you subtract the number of people in hospital/ICU that are:

A) Repeat patients

B) Terminally ill (not due to covid)

C) Chronically ill

D) Nursing home residents

Why? to get an idea of the demographics being affected. The restrictions are applied to the general population, yet you cannot provide data on specific demographics.

Normie chat member not able to answer the third question

He ended up defaulting and calling me a conspiracy theorist at which point ANOTHER normie chat member jumped in and called him out. Pointing out that all I used was basic statistics and nothing else. Arrogant normie chat member hasn't responded since. To anything. Covid chat or non covid chat.

You need to beat them using their own data. It's one of the best ways to accomplish our goal of waking them up.

*Remember they will always default to either you being a conspiracy theorist OR that it's an emergency and they are sure the numbers will be given later. The former is easy to combat since you are using numbers. The latter requires a simple response of logic:

"So if someone dies after receiving a first dose < day 14, they should be counted as unvaccinated statistically?"*

They then fall into a trap they can't get out of and default again.