30mls of methanol will boil 2 cups of water with little regard for surrounding temps and an alcohol stove can be made from a single soda can. You can burn any alcohol, isopropyl works, but is dirty... on the other hand 'HEET' antifreeze from your automotive section is literally just methanol, burns clean, is cheap, is perfect. Stock up before the normies realize and clean it out. Much more cost effective and just as capable as any camping stove setup you might over pay on.
Alternatively a tea light can heat 2-3 cans of soup though you need to be patient, like, hours patient, and that presumes a normal 'room temp'. But it absolutely works.
A $200 generator from walmart can give you 1000w continuous watts - enough to run an electric toaster oven to bake in using fuel you stockpiled, or whatever gas you syphon from your car's tank after things go south.
LED lights are very low power consumers and you can get string lighting to plug into the generator to keep as much of the house minimally lit as you're happy buying and storing. Think christmas but the walls of the house is the tree.
We have a generator but who's to say they won't shut down the gas pipeline. If the electricity goes down, gas pumps won't work or they'll work on a generator until the fuel runs out. Have a feeling though that with the chaos, stores and stations would stay closed. Who wants to be in the middle of looting?
I bought a solar generator, no need to worry about gas. But, it wasn't cheap. I also bought a few other solar items. Check out the survival sites (4Patriots, My Patriots Supply, etc.)
None can say. So it's worth keeping a fuel can or two topped off / in rotation.
Gas generators aren't for long term electricity production though, only to get you through emergency outages with daylight on the other end. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
If you want electricity without relying on the grid you need solar and a major battery pack setup so you have the juice to make it through the night even if the previous days was cloudy or rainy. And that's many many many thousands of an investment so honestly just plan for the temporary. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
LOL, we'll go quad fuel, solar, natural gas, gasoline, and propane. To get 10,000 watts using solar would mean 5 units and cost between 11,000 -12,000 dollars.
Think I'll start reading the nitty gritty on solar units and get my husband to help me build one. There are tons of links. Here's the first site I found in case anyone else is interested in a DIY unit. It's a 3000 watt unit, not a 2000 and would cost 1/2 of an off the shelf solar generator.
Good to know about the transformers. Will ask my husband about a propane tank. We live in a hurricane prone area and have both a gasoline powered generator and one powered by natural gas.
Another point is to congregate in an interior room, which can be heated (not super hot) with just a candle. I have an interior bathroom that I go to when the heat goes out (not often). I bring a bunch of bedding, candles, etc., into the room and go out only when I need to. The bigger the room, the more "fuel" needed to heat it.
30mls of methanol will boil 2 cups of water with little regard for surrounding temps and an alcohol stove can be made from a single soda can. You can burn any alcohol, isopropyl works, but is dirty... on the other hand 'HEET' antifreeze from your automotive section is literally just methanol, burns clean, is cheap, is perfect. Stock up before the normies realize and clean it out. Much more cost effective and just as capable as any camping stove setup you might over pay on.
Alternatively a tea light can heat 2-3 cans of soup though you need to be patient, like, hours patient, and that presumes a normal 'room temp'. But it absolutely works.
A $200 generator from walmart can give you 1000w continuous watts - enough to run an electric toaster oven to bake in using fuel you stockpiled, or whatever gas you syphon from your car's tank after things go south.
LED lights are very low power consumers and you can get string lighting to plug into the generator to keep as much of the house minimally lit as you're happy buying and storing. Think christmas but the walls of the house is the tree.
We have a generator but who's to say they won't shut down the gas pipeline. If the electricity goes down, gas pumps won't work or they'll work on a generator until the fuel runs out. Have a feeling though that with the chaos, stores and stations would stay closed. Who wants to be in the middle of looting?
I bought a solar generator, no need to worry about gas. But, it wasn't cheap. I also bought a few other solar items. Check out the survival sites (4Patriots, My Patriots Supply, etc.)
Thanks, off to those sites right now!
None can say. So it's worth keeping a fuel can or two topped off / in rotation.
Gas generators aren't for long term electricity production though, only to get you through emergency outages with daylight on the other end. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
If you want electricity without relying on the grid you need solar and a major battery pack setup so you have the juice to make it through the night even if the previous days was cloudy or rainy. And that's many many many thousands of an investment so honestly just plan for the temporary. If it's going to be long term you need to plan around not having electricity, not around how you'll get it.
LOL, we'll go quad fuel, solar, natural gas, gasoline, and propane. To get 10,000 watts using solar would mean 5 units and cost between 11,000 -12,000 dollars.
Think I'll start reading the nitty gritty on solar units and get my husband to help me build one. There are tons of links. Here's the first site I found in case anyone else is interested in a DIY unit. It's a 3000 watt unit, not a 2000 and would cost 1/2 of an off the shelf solar generator.
https://www.modernsurvivalists.com/how-to-build-a-2000-watt-solar-generator-part-1/
Good to know about the transformers. Will ask my husband about a propane tank. We live in a hurricane prone area and have both a gasoline powered generator and one powered by natural gas.
What do you mean “Heat” antifreeze?
Had no idea this was even an option so explain as if I am dumb, lol.
Sorry, HEET, my brain just autocorrected me
It's just methanol, the perfect clean burning alcohol fuel for small alcohol stoves (won't leave soot on your cooking gear, or create a smell)
Yellow bottle HEET only not red bottle unless you like soot.
Yes, big point.
I often forget that other bottle exists. Yellow bottle only.
That’s gas tank antifreeze the bottle is branded “heet”
Another point is to congregate in an interior room, which can be heated (not super hot) with just a candle. I have an interior bathroom that I go to when the heat goes out (not often). I bring a bunch of bedding, candles, etc., into the room and go out only when I need to. The bigger the room, the more "fuel" needed to heat it.
Methanol does not have the same BTU as propane which means less you will burn more of it to do the same amount of work -
https://afdc.energy.gov/files/u/publication/fuel_comparison_chart.pdf
Aside, at that price those are 2-stroke machines. You'll need to mix oil into the gas, plan accordingly.
HEET is cheaper and you'll heat more with it per dollar than you will with propane. I won't do the math, but you can feel free to.
Lol, get back to me when you can boil a pasta pot with a can stove.
Uh, you absolutely can.
My soda can alcohol stove can boil pasta no problem. I bet 45mls would do it easy.