THIS IS THE WAY. Teach your children well; CSNY
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No no... as I said, it has been some years, but rewatching the series with someone who is less excited about space sci-fi, it made me realize that the rebels are "good" in imagery and the empire evil in imagery. In their actions, the rebels always act as aggressors.
Even down to who shoots first, takes the first swing of the sabre, etc.
Remember, this is a Hollywood production, we should expect bastardization of values if not outright degeneracy promoted. The whole series is overrated because it was peak special effects and nostalgia maintaining it.
Yeah, this is like thinking that parents of students are terrorists just because the government said so. And all of stupid cowards just kind of go along with what the government says, because they're stupid cowards.
You're saying that oppressive government overreach isn't consequential so long as it doesn't actually fire a shot, or "swing a sabre" as you say.
It's like saying I never commited violence against you, and if I bind your hands behind your back and relegate you to a cage for the rest of your life, and then crying out in pain as your family tries to liberate you, I say that "the bad guys won! They broke the law!" When you were the ones persecuted and imprisoned.
You're kind of outing yourself. Enjoy your free speech while you can. While you don't defend it, you choose to chip away at its edges, and after a while, it'll be gone for us both, after your foolish efforts.
Not at all... ironic that you were the one suggesting I was applying the story to real life.
I'm also not saying that analogy is wrong, actually at face value the creation of the empire can easily be framed as a false flag against the republic.
I get you're a fan of the series, it had alot of nostalgia value, and didn't hate the prequels it really did take until I tried to get my wife into the movies that I caught the extra subtext.
The Jedi are not quite the victims like the count of monte Cristo.
You're really goading me into a conversation about a fictional universe aren't you?
The Jedi were meant to be mediators of the force, but were perverted into a police force for the Republic over many generations. Police parallels anyone?
Besides that, I'm afraid I'm much more interested in the stories of the real world.
I'm really not, my original point was that the Jedi are framed as good, but their actions are all as the aggressors throughout, and there are subtle nods that they aren't good.
Agreed that the real life concerns are more important than film interpretations.
(If anything I'm slightly annoyed that this was the topic of conversations that has had the most traction)