what some of the commenters in here I don't think realize, is that this likely.. will end up being something where the state begins to strongly encourage disabled people to end their own life. Do Not Trust Leftists.
On the basic principle, I agree that a person should have bodily autonomy, including the right to end one's own life when one no longer wishes to continue living. It's not a choice I think should be common, but people with extreme disability or in extreme pain can, with modern medical technology, be kept alive, even when they have no effective quality of life. Prolonging life in such situations may cross the line into torture. Only the individual can determine that, and he has to square that choice with his God. The Catholics in here will appreciate that point, but should also appreciate that God granted Man agency as well, including the choice to give up God's gift of life.
All that said, I do NOT believe it is government's role to be making that choice for another, either in the affirmative or negative. Right now it does. It always acts to preserve life. In an ideal world, it would assert no such authority.
However, Leftists like to abuse power. They like socialized healthcare systems and would quite happily encourage old people to kill themselves to save a buck. They'd pressure them saying it's for the children, and it's selfish to "waste medical resources," etc. Hell, I have no doubt they'd order docs to encourage it, or set the rules about treatment to default to refusing life-saving care. You'd get a DNR whether you want it or not because they're not going to pay another dime for the old geezers. These are the people that shipped COVID infected people into nursing homes purely to cull the weak and frail, cut costs at the hospitals who would've had to quarantine them in inpatient beds, and conveniently boosted their own reimbursement from CMS in the process. People can and will behave in evil ways with ends-justify-the-means rationale if we give them a loophole.
It would be immoral to not consider the potential for abuse. Assisted suicide won't always have the Kevorkian protections to ensure this is a genuine desire and there is no coercion. See Holland and Portugal for evidence of that.
Iirc Belgium legalised it and now recognise that doing so was a mistake as the constraints have been changed repeatedly to a point where euthanising children is authorised and also people can be euthanised for “emotional pain”, with no underlying physical illness or life limiting condition. Sadly we cannot trust these assholes so I don’t think it should be legalised because they’ve shown time and time again given an inch they would take miles. It should be approached from the point of view of compassion for those who are caught up in this situation and their loved ones on a case by case basis. Besides the UK NHS has spent the year of lockdown pretty much euthanising swathes of elderly and infirm using midazolam (used up equivalent of 2yrs supply in 6months) in basically a cull of “useless eaters”. It’s fecking sick
I believe there was also a study, maybe 10 years back, showing that a significant portion of those “euthanized” were not informed or given an option to opt out...
what some of the commenters in here I don't think realize, is that this likely.. will end up being something where the state begins to strongly encourage disabled people to end their own life. Do Not Trust Leftists.
Exactly.
On the basic principle, I agree that a person should have bodily autonomy, including the right to end one's own life when one no longer wishes to continue living. It's not a choice I think should be common, but people with extreme disability or in extreme pain can, with modern medical technology, be kept alive, even when they have no effective quality of life. Prolonging life in such situations may cross the line into torture. Only the individual can determine that, and he has to square that choice with his God. The Catholics in here will appreciate that point, but should also appreciate that God granted Man agency as well, including the choice to give up God's gift of life.
All that said, I do NOT believe it is government's role to be making that choice for another, either in the affirmative or negative. Right now it does. It always acts to preserve life. In an ideal world, it would assert no such authority.
However, Leftists like to abuse power. They like socialized healthcare systems and would quite happily encourage old people to kill themselves to save a buck. They'd pressure them saying it's for the children, and it's selfish to "waste medical resources," etc. Hell, I have no doubt they'd order docs to encourage it, or set the rules about treatment to default to refusing life-saving care. You'd get a DNR whether you want it or not because they're not going to pay another dime for the old geezers. These are the people that shipped COVID infected people into nursing homes purely to cull the weak and frail, cut costs at the hospitals who would've had to quarantine them in inpatient beds, and conveniently boosted their own reimbursement from CMS in the process. People can and will behave in evil ways with ends-justify-the-means rationale if we give them a loophole.
It would be immoral to not consider the potential for abuse. Assisted suicide won't always have the Kevorkian protections to ensure this is a genuine desire and there is no coercion. See Holland and Portugal for evidence of that.
Iirc Belgium legalised it and now recognise that doing so was a mistake as the constraints have been changed repeatedly to a point where euthanising children is authorised and also people can be euthanised for “emotional pain”, with no underlying physical illness or life limiting condition. Sadly we cannot trust these assholes so I don’t think it should be legalised because they’ve shown time and time again given an inch they would take miles. It should be approached from the point of view of compassion for those who are caught up in this situation and their loved ones on a case by case basis. Besides the UK NHS has spent the year of lockdown pretty much euthanising swathes of elderly and infirm using midazolam (used up equivalent of 2yrs supply in 6months) in basically a cull of “useless eaters”. It’s fecking sick
I believe there was also a study, maybe 10 years back, showing that a significant portion of those “euthanized” were not informed or given an option to opt out...