You are right as far as Dems thinking this way. I do believe that Joe's 25th is a big red line that signifies the end is imminent. I believe the timing of everything has been set up this way for a reason. I am not a legal expert, but is it possible that while overturning a fraudulent election is almost impossible, calling for a brand new election after the fraud has been exposed to everyone, and a constitutional crisis precipitated when Joe and KH get removed? Dont forget that the debt ceiling due date is Dec 5th. Imagine a constitutional crisis, election fraud + an economic collapse. We are clearly in uncharted territories!