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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not suggesting you're wrong, but where in law does it say that that is what the sheriff's duties are?

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– TakeItBack 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I offer you this:

  1. We are supposed to be under common law, not the offal that they've supplanted it with. This was the law of the land for about 150 years. What is common law? For every injury there must be a remedy and only a trial jury can render a remedy. For every crime there must be a victim--and the state cannot be the "victim." Common law is that which we commonly know is either right or wrong.

  2. Being under common law, statutes, ordinances, regulations and the like do not apply to we, the people. They apply to our government servants and corporations. Our behavior was never to be controlled or dictated by our servant government.

  3. The Law of the Land consists of: (1) the Constitution, written by We the People, under the authority of God, to empower, control and restrict government servants. (2) Common Law which is written by God in the hearts of men; and, (3) Constitutional Codes, Statutes, and Regulations which are written by Legislators for government agents and commercial activities, not the People.

  4. The Constitution For the United States Of America Article VI: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution.

Sheriffs are judicial officers.

  1. While most people in America recognize the sheriff as the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) for the county, they would be surprised to know that the office of sheriff has a proud history that spans well over a thousand years, from the early Middle Ages to our own “high-tech” era.

  2. In 1215, Magna Carta restored a number of rights to the noblemen and guaranteed certain basic freedoms. The text of Magna Carta mentioned the important role of the sheriff nine times.

  3. The first American counties were established in Virginia, and records show that the first American Sheriff was a Virginia Sheriff, beginning a continuing tradition when the Virginia House of Burgesses appointed the first eight Sheriffs in the first eight Counties of the New World in 1634, one of these counties elected a sheriff in 1651.

  4. Throughout the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, colonial and state legislatures assigned a broad range of responsibilities to the sheriff which included the familiar role of law enforcement. Other duties were new, such as overseeing jails, houses of corrections and work houses. WE elect our sheriffs; we have no say who our various types of police are. Sheriffs answer to the people; police answer to the mayors, state police answer to the governor.

  5. Sheriffs took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, from enemies foreign AND domestic. In the history of our world, it is government tyranny that has violated the freedoms granted to us by our Creator more than any other. And it is the duty of the sheriff to protect their counties from those that would take away our freedoms, both foreign AND domestic – whether it is a terrorist from Yemen or a bureaucrat from Washington, DC.

  6. Codes, statutes and regulations are not applicable to the People. We the People did not, nor could we, give authority to legislators to write law controlling the behavior of the People. Samuel Adams said it clearly, “The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on Earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man, but only to have the law of nature for his rule.”

  7. Village, town, city, and state police are primarily code enforcement agents and not law enforcement agents. They are trained to identify code violations written for government agents and persons engaged in commercial activities, and applying said code violations upon the People--which they should not be doing.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I will go through it, but we should be under American Constitutional Law, not British Common Law. Better men than us fought a damn war to get rid of it.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Alright, so I read through it. Didn't get much of a grasp of it, but I'll try anyway. So what would sheriffs do? Enforce laws that legislatures write? Traffic? What would happen to local and state police? How are jails, houses of correction and work houses different? What is a work house anyway?

I also understand that capitalized letters have altered meanings (not getting into the all-caps corporate property thing here); you typed 'codes, statutes and regulations' both capitalized and all lowercase. How are they different?

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– TakeItBack 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Sheriffs protect the rights of their people in their counties. those rights are enumerated in the Bill of Rights, first 10 amendments of the constitution. Sheriffs are supposed to interpose themselves between their people and any government servant entity, invaders, criminal banks, and criminal judges...........

Legislators write laws that are to regulate themselves, corporations..............NOT the people.

Traffic: we, the people have the right to travel; that should never be interfered with. They have no right to demand licenses, excise taxes and all the other crap they demand. Rules of the road are a little different because they impose some order on what could be very chaotic and highly dangerous. As far as traffic tickets are concerned, those are nothing but theft in illegitimate courts and money makers for the cops. Commercial travel might need some oversight but I haven't looked at it that much.

By rights, local and state police would be under the sheriff's purview, deputies---that we, the people have a say about. We have NO say about local and state cops and they do not answer to US.

Jails, houses of correction, work houses are all pretty similar concepts. Yes, we need places to put those who would harm others but that whole thing is way out of control with little to no due process and even less jurisdiction.

I did capitalize the first letters of some of the words but I attach no particular meaning except that they are important terms or for emphasis. Other than that, I am not addressing the all-caps issue. It's another discussion and is not at the heart of the matter.

Your comment concerning "American Constitutional Law" and British Common Law is interesting. Constitutional law is COMMON LAW. It always was and is still intended to be common law. Our founders, all the people of that time (compared to now) cherished common law, recognizing that people were very able to take care of their own disputes, injuries, and losses. Our common law was carried over from Britain; it was King George who was doing his best to subjugate the colonists and take away their common law rights. The onerous "justice" system that we suffer under now is not what we are supposed to have. That was criminally stolen from us in 1934 by The Enabling Act. As a people, we have become less and less educated about these things and so we have no awareness when we are being abused.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

My understanding of your comment, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that sheriffs don't enforce state/local laws, but rather prevent local and state police from enforcing unconstitutional laws on us? Would be great if that was the case.

About legislators making laws to regulate themselves... that would kind of nullify all of the first laws, not necessarily any amendments written and passed after the Bill of Rights, that the Founders wrote and passed in to law. That would make the Whiskey Tax unconstitutional, as well as the sedition part of the Alien and Sedition Acts. Maybe even the alien part too, as that would insinuate that laws preventing the crossing of our southern border without going through customs is illegal.

This is about the biggest can of worms I could imagine. Not calling you an idiot; I feel the sovereign citizen movement has some legitimate grievances, even though I haven't researched it but have a general idea, but I feel that they should do some hard thinking about their positions, as well as bounce ideas off each other and people of different political beliefs.

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