Our water system in the city stopped using chlorine many years ago and uses chloramines. The underground pipes are full of algae that is bacteria.
Three times a year we get a notice in our water bill they will be switching over from chloramines to chlorine to clean the pipes over a period of 16 days. They say you may smell the chlorine or taste it the level is okay.
I took a trip to my local water plant to learn all about this. It's a very good field trip for anybody on this board to go visit their local water plant for a tour. We are now on reverse osmosis water however the pipes must still be cleaned. Even though we are on RO water I still have a taste and odor filter for chlorine under my kitchen sink.
Have you ever swam in a pool? Have you ever gulped water? Let me tell you those levels are much higher. Swimming pool water regulations are much higher than drinking water.
Thanks pede, I will check out Campden tabs... I've heard of them, never used. WIll have to check if safe for aquatic life. I raise Flowerhorns, and they're particularly water sensitive.
This shit gives people rashes, it kills fish in aquariums... if you drink it, I guess you die? It doesn't evaporate or boil off... residual poison in the drinking water.
That is why they tell you to let the water stand for a half hour before putting the fish in. They also say when you pour your drinking water let it stand for 10 minutes.
Except chorlamine doesn't evaporate! You have to use REVERSE OSMOSIS to get rid of the shit! I have VERY EXPENSIVE and HIGHLY SENSITIVE FISH! I put a link in the first reply or two, that clearly explains how it doesn't evaporate. You can't even boil it out. READ!
Chloramines are formed by combining ammonia with chlorine. The purpose is to reduce the amount of disinfection byproducts (DBPs)when chlorine alone is used. Chlorine combines with organic material in the presence of sunlight to create the byproducts like haloacetic acids and trihalomethanes. Supposedly the DBPs might cause adverse health effects in some people. Unfortunately, Chloramines are less effective as a disinfectant and produce their own byproducts. One problem with the use of Chloramines is that the biofilm growth on the inside of water mains is not hindered as with chlorine, so water companies must switch to chlorine and use a higher than normal dose of chlorine to kill off the biofilm.
Another problem with Chloramines is that as the longer the water sits, the more the chloramines breakdown and causes the water to nitrify. Nitrates in the water restrict the uptake of oxygen in the blood stream. Look up blue baby syndrome and water nitrification.
Except they don't! Do some reading mate, you have to use RO methods to completely get rid of the shit. Carbon filtering doesn't even remove it all, and boiling/distilling even less. This shit will kill my very expensive fish, and letting water "sit for 10 minutes" does nothing. You have to add chemicals to the water to neutralize the chlorine and hard water components. Water softeners/agers DO NOT deal with CHLORAMINE! I have fish worth $800 each, and this shit will kill them! Pretty sure I know more about water quality than the average person... more than familiar with nitrates and nitrites, ammonia and other poisons in water, and the effects on living things.
Sorry, I missed what you meant when you said 'Except they don't!'
I do not like Chloramines. It is a far worse disinfectant than sodium hypochlorite or calcium hypochlorite or chlorine gas. Much more difficult to operate a water system using chloramines than the chlorine options. Chlorine is easier to remove for people with fish tanks as well. We started getting many complaints of 'fish kills' after we switched to Chloramines. It was a multi billion dollar conversion for our water system will not real benefit, except the regulators were happy.
Our water system in the city stopped using chlorine many years ago and uses chloramines. The underground pipes are full of algae that is bacteria.
Three times a year we get a notice in our water bill they will be switching over from chloramines to chlorine to clean the pipes over a period of 16 days. They say you may smell the chlorine or taste it the level is okay. I took a trip to my local water plant to learn all about this. It's a very good field trip for anybody on this board to go visit their local water plant for a tour. We are now on reverse osmosis water however the pipes must still be cleaned. Even though we are on RO water I still have a taste and odor filter for chlorine under my kitchen sink.
Have you ever swam in a pool? Have you ever gulped water? Let me tell you those levels are much higher. Swimming pool water regulations are much higher than drinking water.
I'll bet you find that interesting...
Homebrewer here, chloramines cause plastic/medicinal flavors in beer, and can also be removed using Campden tablets, 1 per 20 gallons.
Thanks pede, I will check out Campden tabs... I've heard of them, never used. WIll have to check if safe for aquatic life. I raise Flowerhorns, and they're particularly water sensitive.
This shit gives people rashes, it kills fish in aquariums... if you drink it, I guess you die? It doesn't evaporate or boil off... residual poison in the drinking water.
That is why they tell you to let the water stand for a half hour before putting the fish in. They also say when you pour your drinking water let it stand for 10 minutes.
That s*** evaporates!
Except chorlamine doesn't evaporate! You have to use REVERSE OSMOSIS to get rid of the shit! I have VERY EXPENSIVE and HIGHLY SENSITIVE FISH! I put a link in the first reply or two, that clearly explains how it doesn't evaporate. You can't even boil it out. READ!
https://waterfilterguru.com/how-to-remove-chloramine-from-water/
Chloramines are formed by combining ammonia with chlorine. The purpose is to reduce the amount of disinfection byproducts (DBPs)when chlorine alone is used. Chlorine combines with organic material in the presence of sunlight to create the byproducts like haloacetic acids and trihalomethanes. Supposedly the DBPs might cause adverse health effects in some people. Unfortunately, Chloramines are less effective as a disinfectant and produce their own byproducts. One problem with the use of Chloramines is that the biofilm growth on the inside of water mains is not hindered as with chlorine, so water companies must switch to chlorine and use a higher than normal dose of chlorine to kill off the biofilm. Another problem with Chloramines is that as the longer the water sits, the more the chloramines breakdown and causes the water to nitrify. Nitrates in the water restrict the uptake of oxygen in the blood stream. Look up blue baby syndrome and water nitrification.
Except they don't! Do some reading mate, you have to use RO methods to completely get rid of the shit. Carbon filtering doesn't even remove it all, and boiling/distilling even less. This shit will kill my very expensive fish, and letting water "sit for 10 minutes" does nothing. You have to add chemicals to the water to neutralize the chlorine and hard water components. Water softeners/agers DO NOT deal with CHLORAMINE! I have fish worth $800 each, and this shit will kill them! Pretty sure I know more about water quality than the average person... more than familiar with nitrates and nitrites, ammonia and other poisons in water, and the effects on living things.
Sorry, I missed what you meant when you said 'Except they don't!' I do not like Chloramines. It is a far worse disinfectant than sodium hypochlorite or calcium hypochlorite or chlorine gas. Much more difficult to operate a water system using chloramines than the chlorine options. Chlorine is easier to remove for people with fish tanks as well. We started getting many complaints of 'fish kills' after we switched to Chloramines. It was a multi billion dollar conversion for our water system will not real benefit, except the regulators were happy.
Yeah my bad I think I hit reply on you and replied to someone else's comment, lol. That'll teach me for not paying attention xD
Hahaha, Yes I'm guilty of that as well. Cheers!