You'd have to become a leader of the cabal to maybe learn that.

Thoughts: (Modern cabal) Groups like The Freemasons were probably a 'good' in another age (G.Washington)- it'd still be tough to pinpoint the exact moment they were taken over by evil actors because of how they infiltrate everything covertly. Think of this concept but 500 years+ ago... anyone that claims to know without extraordinary proof, is highly suspect.

Look at the first secret societies known- and wonder hard.