Sorry brother, I can see that this is a topic that is of great interest to you. As I noted, I simply do not have the time to discuss it at length. I believe your interpretation--one that only became popular in the 1800's--is faulty.

You can believe that all you want but I provided links that show this is the best interpretation of what The Bible says that we have.

At the same time, as we are living these very times, we will see with our own eyes, and what will happen will be. Thus, there is not a great incentive to discuss at length.

None of the actions that occur during The Tribulation have come to pass yet. To say that we are currently in it is highly ignorant. Where is the False Prophet? Where is the one world currency? Where are the Two Witnesses? Where are the 3 1/2 years of peace and 3 1/2 years of war? We are not there yet for a multitude of reasons.

As the Bible notes, there will be many martyrs during this period. Martyrs of course refers to Christians.

Martyrs refers to Christians who are killed BECAUSE of their faith and refusal to take the Mark of the Beast. It's highly explicit.

However, when Christ returns after the Tribulation we will in fact see him coming 'in the clouds', not before.

I've addressed this in your last comment. If you're not going to even bother to consider what I write, what are you doing here? You have ignored basically the entirety of my previous comment. That is not genuine discussion. Stop using the excuse of, "time" and just reply when you DO have time.

The very notion that Christians--as a result of reciting a few words in Scripture--will get to miss out on the entire Tribulation period is really silly and certainly not Biblical.

It's explicitly from The Bible with direct context and relation from The Tribulation. How can you even argue it's, "not Biblical?" We don't get to pick and choose which verses we like - The Word of God is not defined by us.

Jews, like Christians have always suffered more, not less than other groups. The Tribulation period will be no exception to that rule. Millions will be martyred for their faith.

Do you think that God is not in control? Do you really think the purpose of Tribulation is to punish unbelievers while simultaneously focusing the hardest on believers? Do you not see the mutually exclusive positions that you hold?

Tribulation is not about Christians. That doesn't mean that bad things will not happen to new Christians who found their faith during the Tribulation.

There is a partial truth to what you believe in that God will make provision for believers in places called refuges. You can read about these at www.johnleary.com and many other places.

I love how you accuse me of being non-biblical while posting to a website whose copyright hasn't been updated since 2008, and someone who defines himself as Catholic, claims himself to be a prophet, and comes up with ideas that are in no conceivable way supported from Biblical text. Hell, The Bible explicitly warns us about people like him - they're called false prophets.

I'd think you were a troll if I hadn't seen you post other cult-like ideas like this before.

God has called many individuals to build shelters so that at the appointed time, those who have the seal on their forehead will be called to the nearest refuge. Refuges will be guarded by angels, food will be multiplied and only believers will be admitted. However, life will be very rustic, with no electricity etc.

Absolutely NONE of this is Biblical. It is the exact opposite of what Revelations defines.

https://www.gotquestions.org/saved-after-mark-beast.html

This also relates to your remarks about the martyr's - The Bible is INCREDIBLY explicit about this. Those who do not take the mark will be killed, those who do take the mark are damned for eternity. It is explicit in Revelations 14:10-11.

I will pray for you.

While believers will be protected through the end of the Tribulation at these refuges, those who reside their for 3.5 years will live a very difficult life. The Christians who do not make it to the Refuges will be eventually executed as the antichrist tries to remove ALL evidence of Jesus from the world. So, the fact that Christians will leave for these refuges may appear to others as a sort of rapture. That is possible. However, the scripture passage (about being called up into the clouds) does not refer to the "rapture" but rather the 2nd Coming.

If it were not for the refuges, where believers will be protected, there would no left Christians left to meet Jesus when he comes to defend Israel.

There will be Christians present during and at the end of Tribulation - Those who have never heard or been exposed to The Word of God and Jesus's testimony before can be saved during Tribulation. What else is the purpose of The Two Witnesses, and the 144,000? Those Christians must either be martyrs or hide from the New World Order, Cabal, whatever you want to call them, or they would be killed for not taking the Mark of the Beast.

I would appreciate it if you took the time to consider what I am writing instead of just ignoring it altogether. I have done my best to go through every point you have made in each of your comments, while you have acted as if I do not exist at all. You are talking to a brick wall if you do not acknowledge and react accordingly to my comments. There's no need for hostility or bad behavior between us, so can't we have a genuine discussion with each other?