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Is novavax safe?
posted 3 years ago by Austrumper 3 years ago by Austrumper +17 / -0

Title. I'm in australia. I've already refused the gene vaccines. I'm currently on unpaid leave from work until I get a vaccine. If I don't eventually get one I will lose my job and family. There is no legal recourse at all in Australia. We have no bill of rights.

That said, we get novavax in the next month. What do we know about it?

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– FondueFerret 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. Do what you know is right and find other employment asap.

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– Austrumper [S] 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

What and find another family too? Not an option to me.

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– FondueFerret 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Where will your family disappear to if you lose your job?

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– bubble_bursts 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Dr Malone seems to indicate that Novavax is a traditional vaccine rather than gene therapy based ones: https://www.westernjournal.com/inventor-mrna-vaccine-asks-one-inconvenient-question-looks-like-plausible-scenario/

Also it seems like Novavax uses tree bark as adjuvant rather than heavy metals. Also it does not contain the full spike sequence, just relevant proteins created using moth cells: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/moths-and-tree-bark-how-the-novavax-vaccine-works#:~:text=The%20Novavax%20vaccine%20uses%20a,COVID%2D19%20infection

I haven't seen the clinical study results, would be interested if you can dig it up.

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– covfefe_americano 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I read an American Greatness article that tried to argue the Novavax is the "pro-life" vax, because, although it used aborted fetal cell lines in [edit: confirmatory lab tests] , they don't use fetal cell lines as part of production. It's utter rot to me -- use fetal cells, I say no. I'll have to do my own digging into this, to verify, of course.

Anyway, I'm not much help with evidence for clinical trials -- all I know is from that AG article referenced above: that they are on phase 3, I believe it mentioned, and that they rushed the whole thing. Their clinical trial results are also published by the company that produces the vax, so I'm sure they're completely unbiased!

[EDIT: Here's the sauce I reference above, which I might've found through AG or CFP. Sorry for any confusion!]

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– bubble_bursts 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

clinical trial results are also published by the company that produces the vax, so I'm sure they're completely unbiased!

You will be surprised what you will find if you dig in and read everything. Thats what I did with the Pfizer trial - the result was published by Pfizer and still had like 2 dozen red flags.

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– covfefe_americano 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Exactly my point! And that publication of Pfizer trial results was terrible. I think undergraduate theses are written better and scrutinized more. Hell, grade school papers probably get more scrutiny.

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– Haramming_speed 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Novavax is “better” in the sense it is a set amount of protein to train your immune system. More like a traditional vaccine. The mRNA and the JandJ commandeer your cells to produce the spike protein to trigger Immune system. Problem is it does so in unknown quantities so my feeling is that some people have a runaway reaction and others probably none.

That said you cannot comply your way out of tyranny so keep fighting!

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/

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– ashlanddog 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/moths-and-tree-bark-how-the-novavax-vaccine-works#:~:text=The%20Novavax%20vaccine%20uses%20a,COVID%2D19%20infection.

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– sillBag 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

From what I have heard from a good and very based friend out in Germany.

This is the only vax that won't kill you.

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