James O'Keefe pointing out this tattoo? What do you see?
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Wish you had said so in your original post. If you read this thread, Its been nothing but attacks on me, so I used a little humor.
Ill add to my 'none' answer;
I know dozens of masons. ALL good men. ALL walks of life. ALL denominations, carerrs, political affiliations, etc etc. But and this is important, I dont know any masons above 3rd degree. Over 95% of masons are 3rd degree or lower. I have NO IDEA what occurs above 3rd degree, anymore than a common working plumber has any idea what happens outside his union hall, or a regular old high school math teacher / football coach has any idea what happens at the upper eschelons of the teachers unions closed door meetings, or a church choir member has any idea what happens at the church headquarters 1000 miles away.
EVERY ONE on this board probably has a relative who is a mason, and many of them dont even know it.
And as I said earlier, every organization that YOU belong to has evil in it. ask youself if that makes you evil.
Thank you, I'd hoped and thought as much. I suspect a similar level of engagement but I don't know for certain, I've never asked the people that would know due to minor difficulties the time spent engaged caused.
I did see the comments here, it's partly why I approached with caution- I wasn't trying to invoke a reaction or attack, just engage, but I fully understand why you may have thought that. I also was aware that I may be asking for info you weren't comfortable disclosing, hence the slight vagueness in detail.
No sweat.
There is no harm in asking. Every free American should be solid enough to say no thank you without being insulted.
Ask away, but if you want to know, just search in a search engine. I dont know of one single 3rd degree or below secret that isnt plastered all over the interweb.
Absolutely, I have done a bit of research but found things difficult to reconcile. It's never been the lower secrets that bothered me. Secrets were a little difficult for me to comprehend in themselves, but witnessing human behaviour recently I can understand why the need was felt.
Asking in person has been beneficial, a lot of online resources lack a human capacity. It was a mind settling exercise really and people are better at that. :)
I have a question: Why do most masons only go to 3rd degree? What's the barrier to continuing on? Until recently, I thought the barrier was 32nd degree. I had heard that 33rd degree was honorary and you had to be awarded this degree -- you couldn't earn it, per se.
Is it a question of the type of Masonry you are in? I know there are different ranking systems depending on whether it's Scottish Rite or ??? (I forget the name, offhand).
Just curious, fren.
3rd degree is master mason.
It is the apex of standard masonic degrees. Any master mason may join Scottish rite or York rite (two different orgs) in order to pursue additional degrees. I know nothing about these except that to join the Shriners requires prior membership in one of these, but I dont recall which.
Think of 3rd degree as a bachelors degree. most people are done right there.
As for me, Im simply a master mason, 3rd degree. Nothing additional.