I have to disagree! I know of many gay men with great beards. Even cross dressers have beards. Some men just can’t grow facial hair & that’s genetic. I’m a woman & I don’t look at a man with a beard or mustache to decide if he’s a man.
To me a real man is there for the people in his life. If he can’t do the job himself he makes sure it’s done by someone who can. If the man is a father he’s always there for the children until he leaves this earth.
I was once asked by a male co worker why women were attracted to guys that drove pick up trucks, wore jeans, rough around the edges, “red necks”, country boys, cowboys, etc (they do come in all races)
I said because a woman knows she will always be taken care of. Most likely f those men know how to fix anything. They will stand up to anyone to defend their woman, mother & children. They don’t care about impressing strangers. They like the simple life.
(I understand they all don’t fit in this box.)
They are also not competing with their wives to be the "prettiest" or "best dressed". My husband is all man. He is not perfect...luckily, I am not perfect either. When we had almost back to back Hurricanes, he came in pretty handy. I had a working generator with air conditioning. I even had running water. I knew that no matter what that together we could survive. A lot of women have been mislead too. Society told them they could have it all and have it all at the same time. You can't. Something suffers.
They are also not competing with their wives to be the "prettiest" or "best dressed"
Yes, this is so true. I've made a conscious effort to not be like that - striving to be the prettiest. I'd imagine that an excessively vain partner would be a huge turnoff to women.
I agree with your points, @moodyblue. You are right, there are a ton of great guys who can't grow facial hair. It's all about the personality. It took me a while to realize this myself.
If the man is a father he’s always there for the children until he leaves this earth.
This is the exact opposite of how my father was, as it turns out.
They don’t care about impressing strangers. They like the simple life.
Again, exact opposite of how my father was unfortunately. I would have preferred a father who didn't care about impressing anybody and just wanted a simple life. Simple = happy, we are not complicated creatures.
I understand! My dad is so complicated! He will do anything for but the strings attached are so big I call them chains. He calls my husband before he calls me because he knows I stand up to him and usually say know to what ever selfish request he has. Unfortunately I live beside him. It’s cheap living & I’m stuck! He’s 78 still works, won’t stay home & excepts me to take care of my mom. I’m not able physically or emotionally. He once told me had over a million in the bank. (Not including what’s in stock investment, 401K) I’ve said over & don’t save your money to leave to me & my brother. Use it take care of him & mom. He’s that selfish & money hungry.
I don’t get on social media on Mother’s or Father’s Day. I’m happy for people that can experience that type of love from their parents. All I feel is guilt. I’m thankful I had I had a roof over my head, clothes, took wonderful trips my entire life till I was 18. I had adventure but I also had a world of uncertainty that lead to me being an alcoholic from 9th grade through age 20. I was on weed from my junior year in high school till I was about 20. The only thing that saved me was finding a man that was the opposite of him!
Yes, my grandparents were there but I lived with my parents & anything out the normal can break a kid.
I believe you have it in you to find your way. I think you are already on your path. I believe that because you are asking questions, seeking questions & you are here. I believe this is a positive place in general. We don’t have to know each other personally to connect.
In your real world surround yourself with like minded people. Learn how to read people. People will be fake!!! You don’t want those people in your life. Be cautious of who you tell you story to. Not that isn’t shameful but people will try to hurt you or they might want to do as your mom did.
If you want a long term relationship & when you are ready. You will know when the right person comes into your life.
I know someone that never dated & meet someone dated for a year got engaged & married a year later. They will be 30 this year. I believe she never meet a person she respected until she meet him.
Your life will come together when it’s supposed to. Our lives are little chapters like a book. It’s forever changing. I’m in my 50s & I’m certainly not the same person I was in my 20s or 30s. Blessings💘
My point was not to say the same types of things posted. I see your point but I know women who feel the opposite about beards. I don’t really concern myself with the gay community so I don’t care what they do. I know some super gay people can grow beards but fact remains they are men. It’s just a physical characteristic but one solely associated with being a man. I agree that having a beard doesn’t make you a man but I stand by the fact that it is only something associated with men.
I understand & I see you point. I didn’t get what you meant at first. I’m glad you told me. Not to imply you weren’t clear. Sometimes I’m a little ditzy!
I have to disagree! I know of many gay men with great beards. Even cross dressers have beards. Some men just can’t grow facial hair & that’s genetic. I’m a woman & I don’t look at a man with a beard or mustache to decide if he’s a man. To me a real man is there for the people in his life. If he can’t do the job himself he makes sure it’s done by someone who can. If the man is a father he’s always there for the children until he leaves this earth. I was once asked by a male co worker why women were attracted to guys that drove pick up trucks, wore jeans, rough around the edges, “red necks”, country boys, cowboys, etc (they do come in all races) I said because a woman knows she will always be taken care of. Most likely f those men know how to fix anything. They will stand up to anyone to defend their woman, mother & children. They don’t care about impressing strangers. They like the simple life. (I understand they all don’t fit in this box.)
They are also not competing with their wives to be the "prettiest" or "best dressed". My husband is all man. He is not perfect...luckily, I am not perfect either. When we had almost back to back Hurricanes, he came in pretty handy. I had a working generator with air conditioning. I even had running water. I knew that no matter what that together we could survive. A lot of women have been mislead too. Society told them they could have it all and have it all at the same time. You can't. Something suffers.
Yes, this is so true. I've made a conscious effort to not be like that - striving to be the prettiest. I'd imagine that an excessively vain partner would be a huge turnoff to women.
I agree with your points, @moodyblue. You are right, there are a ton of great guys who can't grow facial hair. It's all about the personality. It took me a while to realize this myself.
This is the exact opposite of how my father was, as it turns out.
Again, exact opposite of how my father was unfortunately. I would have preferred a father who didn't care about impressing anybody and just wanted a simple life. Simple = happy, we are not complicated creatures.
I understand! My dad is so complicated! He will do anything for but the strings attached are so big I call them chains. He calls my husband before he calls me because he knows I stand up to him and usually say know to what ever selfish request he has. Unfortunately I live beside him. It’s cheap living & I’m stuck! He’s 78 still works, won’t stay home & excepts me to take care of my mom. I’m not able physically or emotionally. He once told me had over a million in the bank. (Not including what’s in stock investment, 401K) I’ve said over & don’t save your money to leave to me & my brother. Use it take care of him & mom. He’s that selfish & money hungry. I don’t get on social media on Mother’s or Father’s Day. I’m happy for people that can experience that type of love from their parents. All I feel is guilt. I’m thankful I had I had a roof over my head, clothes, took wonderful trips my entire life till I was 18. I had adventure but I also had a world of uncertainty that lead to me being an alcoholic from 9th grade through age 20. I was on weed from my junior year in high school till I was about 20. The only thing that saved me was finding a man that was the opposite of him! Yes, my grandparents were there but I lived with my parents & anything out the normal can break a kid. I believe you have it in you to find your way. I think you are already on your path. I believe that because you are asking questions, seeking questions & you are here. I believe this is a positive place in general. We don’t have to know each other personally to connect. In your real world surround yourself with like minded people. Learn how to read people. People will be fake!!! You don’t want those people in your life. Be cautious of who you tell you story to. Not that isn’t shameful but people will try to hurt you or they might want to do as your mom did. If you want a long term relationship & when you are ready. You will know when the right person comes into your life. I know someone that never dated & meet someone dated for a year got engaged & married a year later. They will be 30 this year. I believe she never meet a person she respected until she meet him. Your life will come together when it’s supposed to. Our lives are little chapters like a book. It’s forever changing. I’m in my 50s & I’m certainly not the same person I was in my 20s or 30s. Blessings💘
My point was not to say the same types of things posted. I see your point but I know women who feel the opposite about beards. I don’t really concern myself with the gay community so I don’t care what they do. I know some super gay people can grow beards but fact remains they are men. It’s just a physical characteristic but one solely associated with being a man. I agree that having a beard doesn’t make you a man but I stand by the fact that it is only something associated with men.
Yeah you and moodyblue are both correct.
I understand & I see you point. I didn’t get what you meant at first. I’m glad you told me. Not to imply you weren’t clear. Sometimes I’m a little ditzy!