First, I am Catholic, and so is this other guy.
I responded to him and asked, "Do you remember how you felt when the first news about Catholic priest abuses in Boston broke, a couple of decades ago?"
He replied, "I was sort of numbed with disbelief."
"Okay," I continued, "and have you ever thought about how such a scandal could exist for so long, not to mention other scandals? Have you ever thought about the power structure at the top levels of the church administration that manipulated things to keep all the scandals a secret?"
"I guess I never thought of it that way," he replied.
"Well, " I said, "do you think that the the Catholic church is the only entity in the history of the world to have a power structure, and secret scandals, etc.?"
Silence.
"And so," I added, "by simple extrapolation, I am confident that a relatively tiny number of people in the highest positions among the governments, corporations and other institutions are all busy pushing their agendas, and protecting their secrets. And if that's true, it's probably just as true that an even higher level of controllers are orchestrating things to their advantage and to further their agenda."
Deer in the headlights stare.
Show him the pope's audience hall.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBHafJaWwAEM0pd.jpg
This is what I say, as a Catholic: you know how Joe Biden stole the election and is currently squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., with a counterfeit administration and has no power legitimately? Well the exact same thing happened to the Catholic church last century, the same powers that created a counterfeit church created the fake Biden administration, these are communists. And they are as patient as they are evil. (Btw, sedevacantism is the only explanation for two churches. One is if God, the other of Satan himself, with out ward appearances of holiness but rots the soul and with the stench of sulfur.)
As free masons (including popes) they all control nearly everything. I, too, am Catholic. My faith is in the one on the crucifix, not the one standing on the altar. Still, I am sickened by what is going on.
Popes aren’t free-masons tho. If they’re free-masons, they’re automatically excommunicated, therefor not a pope.
Oh they surely should not be...but watch some of their gestures. It sadly fits what is going on.