I've seen many say this, including myself being I believe this, so if you believe it to be true, how can you deny the mother of all manipulations, the high prince of psyops, globe earth vs flat earth? You can't believe one without at least being open to the other. Without even being open to the possibility earth is flat, you may not be as awake as you think.
Think about this, look at how nonchalantly in our face they run their ops, I see this as having built their confidence with bigger and bigger psyops through time. Shit, I'd wager they have fun just seeing what they can get us stupid goyims to believe.
No, sorry friends, if you're blinders say the earth is round end of story, you're still under the DS spell. I'm not saying that as bad or being mean, but rather the key take away in all that's going on in the world thar we find ourselves in, trust nothing but your faith in God.
God bless and happy Monday!
I was open to the flat earth idea. Then I went to the beach and watched a sailboat slowly disappear over the horizon.
So you're saying if the earth were indeed flat, you have infinite vision and you'd see that sailboat no matter how far away it sailed from you? It certainly doesn't sound like your saying things get smaller and smaller and then "vanish" even on a flat plane.
"So you're saying if the earth were indeed flat, you have infinite vision..."
Disingenuous. Nothing of the kind was being said. This is GAW, discuss topics with respect to each others views fren.
When the sailboat was disappearing over the horizon, it vanished from the bottom up. Bring binoculars and see for yourself.
I'm convinced the earth is round from our perspective in this reality. It's ok if you are not convinced.
It really isn't ok at all. Prehistoric (Edit: sorry, not pre-historic, I meant from antiquity) peoples figured out the world was round with shadows and simple math. Some WW! artilleryman who didn't know washing his ass prevented painful death knew to factor in the curvature of the earth into his firing equations. But here we are, in the midst of the most publicly available information in human history, and we have idiots talking about a flat Earth.
I don't doubt for a second that academia is lying about Earth-related shit, I myself think hydroplate theory makes way more sense than global tectonic plates/shift. Hell, if you told me you bought into hollow Earth I could understand. Flat Earth, on the other hand, should be a litmus test for immediate sterilization.
Sorry, apparently that ship has sailed and I missed the boat! kek
I'm not convinced either way, nor looking to be, if I found something one way or the other, fine, but otherwise it's just another triviality IMO. Something else to divide We The People.
But come on, you got to admit it'd be the mother of all deceptions!
They do get smaller, they disappear from the hull upwards.
There is gum in the middle!!
Shut the actual fuck up. Flat earth is, if anything, a government started conspiracy to have something to point at and compare other "conspiracies" to mockingly. The only people I've seen buy that shit long term are retards whose parents would have died of something easily preventable if they didn't put warning labels on everything and burnt out druggies. Which are you?
Yes, I'm a retard, my mother was killed by a bus in England because she looked the wrong way before stepping out into the street. My father died from pancreatic cancer. Both entirely prevented easily.
Yes, I'm sure that's it, very likely the same agency that coined the term is the one and the same agency that set forth the stories that the term defines.
The only people I've seen react so harshly are so sucked into fantasy their defense mechanism kicks in when challenged. But hey, if it makes you feel like a champ, tear away!
Your reasoning (they lie about everything else why wouldn't they lie about this?) is not sound logic, it's literally evidence of psychosis. And that's usually the least stupid point anyone can make on the topic.
Side tangent, did your mother really die like that? I can't tell if it was a joke about it being easily preventable because of the pancreatic cancer bit.
Ha, nope, no joke, not something I'd joke about. She was, shoot, I don't remember, I'm terrible with things like that, but 50s I guess, she'd gone back to school and upon graduating went to London with a friend of hers. Fam and I went over, she was in a coma for a bit and then passed not long after we came back. Apparently it's not an uncommon for such things to happen with the reverse traffic.
As to the rest, I've always been a natural skeptic, or maybe more a don't really care either way kinda guy. At this point I believe anything is plausible, doesn't mean I believe it, but I've seen both sides pretty staunch in their beliefs.
There's tons of videos and articles out there that flat earthers themselves made proving their own theories wrong. They go through all this effort only to find out they proved themselves wrong and choose to ignore evidence they gathered with their own eyes. If that's not derangement, I don't know what qualifies.
Wonderful metal gymnastics.
The reality is, unless you have managed to get internet service in, and are reporting from Narnia, the world is not flat.
So, then, that is reality. So in this reality, everything happening around us is organic, natural progression of man's aggression and greed heeding?
The reality is we have no fricking clue about anything beyond what's fed to us and "conspiracy theories".
I'm not saying it is or isn't either way, all I'm saying is with how dead set people are against it, yet claim to be "awake" doesn't really jive with believing we've been, our reality that is, massively manipulated probably beyond history.
Thing is, some things on our plane of existence are immutable. Observation of nature, seasons, and the like are a part of our existence that can not be overcome in our present state of existence and are therefore reality. Most of us realize there is more we cannot see or comprehend.
"The reality is we have no fricking clue about anything beyond what's fed to us and "conspiracy theories"."
Well said, but the flat earth parallel doesn't really work well here. It basically took the threat of being burned at the stake to prevent people from seeing the earth was not flat just by simple observation. The prolific disinformation we are exposed to regarding events we are not witness to is what confuses and seperates those who seek the truth and those who seek shelter in dogma.
If you've been around this for a while perhaps you remember when the adversary sent in the "flat earthers" to discredit the voat community as a bunch of "batshit crazy tin foil hat conspiracy nuts".
I missed the flat earth invaders, but really I'm not saying it's flat or round, just that to be closed off to it is a little short sighted.
Over the past year or so I've watched several hours of flat earth videos and read some articles, there are some convincing arguments, on both sides mind you.
I'm certainly open to it being a possibility, but at the end of the day, I give thanks and praise to the Lord for this wonderous, and often mysterious world he gave us in which to live.
I went through looking at the flat earth "evidence" and for a few days was really wondering. They do spin a convincing tale. Then I remembered sitting on top of Mt Evans looking out over Denver and the great plains, seeing the curvature of the earth.
But back to your original post, there is no doubt in my mind they have been.
That is the difference between me and my brother. He is fairly well informed, very Conservative, very honest, but it is not possible in his worldview that there is a longstanding wide ranging conspiracy to control humanity and shape the future to their vision.
Yeah, ditto on the brother thing except sisters for me. I've tried talking to no avail, so I was actually starting to put some things together to write something in hopes of showing them, plus having everything together in one place. Unlike my mind, where it may be there but doesn't always come out effectively lol
I have come to the conclusion that the best thing I can do for him is let him continue in his worldview until it changes and then be there for him to explain what happened.
My guy, you can make your own arts and crafts telescope and look up at the sky to see other planets in our solar system. He said the world isn't flat and you countered with "oh so I guess nothing has every been manipulated ever then, huh?" That's either an unbelievably bad faith argument because you are immutably linking one to the other or you genuinely need therapy because you're on the verge of a psychotic break.
My brother works with artillery software, they factor in the curvature of the earth and its compass heading and spin. They can almost drop that shit into a trash can.
If the earth was flat,they would miss big time.
So that is counter to one of the arguments I've seen/heard made, is that engineers never take into account earths curvature on massive building projects, railways, canals, tunnels, etc.
But to play protagonist, the software is actually doing the calculating, you should see if your brother can test this with crunching the numbers himself.
To further play protagonist, if round earth is a sham, the shamsters would certainly have math to support it.
Think about it, science is nothing but massive complex mathematical equational theories and only taken as fact when someone replicates it and can say it's probably true. If you look around, there's some whacky ass scientific theories out there.
Again, my stance isn't earth is flat or round, more once you start down the rabbit hole, it's most likely deeper than many can or will grasp.
He works with the software by writing it, and testing multiple versions over the last 30 years......
Not all by himself but he knows it like the back of his hand.
I am a retired aircraft fitter, tell me what rhumb lines and great circle routes are flat earthers?
It's hollow. Like a honeycomb.
https://youtu.be/BxyfiBGCwhQ
Question everything...I believe I woke up earlier than most is for my love of "conspiracy theories"...started with someone randomly handing me a burned dvd copy of "Zeitgeist" in the mid 2000's..it got my noggin joggin..then led to InfoWars (more for entertainment..but now it has more truth than most)..I have to thank that stranger, that just handed me that copy...been watching some Eric Dubay lately...the "flat earth" conspiracy is a tough one..I do believe NASA is just a money laundering arm of the US Govt. for the most part..almost there..give me time.