Pfizer vaccine data. Of particular interest is page 30: full pages of known adverse effects…
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You won't get any argument from me regarding the second half of what you described. I will gladly concede, that the world looks just like what it would have, without Q. At least as far as we have the foresight to be able to conceive.
However I think that's a big reason I decided I like this community is because I resonate strongly with the leap of faith it takes to entertain the idea that Q is something much more than a gag gone too far.
Even with everything ive learned about in pursuing my Psych degree regarding such clevery deceptive concepts in social conditioning, learning/habituation/extinction principles, and all the cognitive biases that might indicate to me that i may simply be mistaken... that the way this world currently looks (as if it's missing a truly unique team of good guys working in the shadows) is just another day in the life of being ruled by crooked n corrupt, power hungry, sociopaths.
The notion that this observation demonstrates that nothing is out of place, and Q is indeed just a farce, and that i over estimated the true extent of evil in the world is something that I reject, not even necessarily out of overwhelming proof of what I can see with my eyes, but due to the overwhelming amount of proof I've felt with my soul, throughout this lifetime.
You can tell me that Q was a left wing psy op all along and I will actually entertain that if proven verifiable true one day. However I will never be able to concede that I overestimated the evil nature of man. To even attempt to do so would be a willful rejection of so much of my life experience.
There seems to be a few underlying constants amongst everyone who finds themselves on this site and embraces Q as a potential force of good, that I've noticed in the past year and a half I've been here.
First, all of us have an extreme immunity to group think and social conditioning. And secondly, nearly all of us have first hand experience with the exact level of evil that Q posits to exist. At least in my observation that appears to be the case.
But before I digress too far, I'll return to your mostly valid point that, the VAERS database is NOT being ignored. From the few bits you shared, I can concede, it certainly appears that the VAERS reports are being acknowledged to some extent.
And I'll also concede that it would be an enormous leap to contend that, "every single study is a well-funded fabrication by bribed Cabal scientists and that solid proof of the vaccine's danger from honest skeptical scientists is somehow being drowned out or suppressed so completely that there are no leaks, anywhere, even from random grad students".
Nonetheless, as crazy as it might sound to a logical thinking intellectual, most of us here will posit that this is indeed EXACTLY what has been done for so long by these enormous public health institutions that until very recently, had the full trust of the public.
There are so many countless examples of these giant, multi billion dollar, big Pharma corporations taking advantage of the blind trust of the public--the very constituents that make and keep them wealthy--as they place profit before their product safety and efficacy, and their honesty of the nature of their products.
Ex. For a very long time, benzodiazepenes, were described by this same scientific community as being a safe alternative for barbiturates, as a relatively harmless compound to treat a variety of conditions such as anxiety, seizures and insomnia. And it wasn't until just a few years ago that the full understanding of the dangers of benzodiazapenes were finally forced to be acknowledge.
No one was truly held accountable, it was mostly dismissed as an "unfortunate mishap" of the pharmaceutical companies who were still viewed as having "good intentions", those it affected were largely ignored, and life went on.
A very similar thing occurred with the Sackler family, the owners of Purdue Pharma, and their role in causing the opioid epidemic by allowing such a relaxed and misconstrued understanding of the long term effects of opiate use, to persist for so long in spite of the millions of victims who suffered and lost their lives. They were taken to court, paid out a fraction of their net wealth as a settlement, and life went on.
In 2012, GlaxoSmithKline was forced to pay out 3 billion dollars in total from both a civil and criminal lawsuit in which they were found guilty of: off-label promotion, failure to disclose safety data, paying kickbacks to physicians, making false and misleading statements concerning the safety of Avandia, reporting false best prices and underpaying rebates owed under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program
In 2009, Pfizer was forced to pay out 2.3 billion dollars after being found guilty of off label promotions and kickbacks for their products: Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox and Lyrica
In 2013, Johnson & Johnson was forced to pay out 2.2 billion dollars after being found guilty of off label promotion and kickbacks for their products: Risperdal, Invega and Nesiritide
These companies have an undeniable track record of making hundreds of billions of dollars with the development of their products viewed as treatments with "good intentions", for a decade or two at a time, until the amount of their consumers negatively affected by their malfeasance and refusal to acknowledge the negative side effects, forces them into a lawsuit they lose, they pay out a fraction of their total net worth, and THEN their product issues are acknowledged
Now if you are going to tell me that these SAME pharmaceutical companies have the audacity to claim that a new product they've developed will be "different this time", without any way of knowing the long term side effects in advance, AND while receiving full immunity from potential litigation--the only means they've ever previously been forced to be held accountable in the slightest--then I will maintain that you are putting just as much, if not more, blind faith in these new vaccines, than anyone here is putting into Q being anything more than a farce.
In fact, the situation would be more equally comparable if multiple Q-style psy ops have existed in the past, been proven to be a farce every time, and yet we still continued to put blind faith that this next Q operation "is different".
So with all that being said, whether or not Q ends up being a legit operation, or ultimately just a cleverly construed farce, one would have to be completely naive to believe that these mRNA vaccines are actually "safe and effective", as they are being marketed as, and that the purposeful use of a person's vaccination status being used as a method of additional social coercion, is solely being done with benevolent intentions.
One of the most important quotes I'll leave you with is this: "The Greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing the world he did not exist". The reason I know personally that the devil exists, that he manipulates people, uses them for his own dark self gratification, and then deceives them into believing he only had good intentions the whole time... is because I've personally experienced the unbelievable ease at which this is done to people.
The magnitude of dissonance that people express in response to potentially being victimized or manipulated was baffling when I first encountered it. Its almost like humans are biologically wired to deny reality in the face of being potentially manipulated.... and it only incentivizes that evil to continue.
I have been the devil before...But I've had a change of heart after experiencing my own microcosm of how evil perpetuates in cycles. And so a few years ago, I decided I didn't want to see how depraved I could be while continuing to get away with it, because it scared me how warped ones perspective can become.
I won't get into too much detail, but I've experienced first hand how much women let you get away with when they view you are rare, and perceive you as higher value. The boundaries of what would normally be viewed as morally reprehensible truly blur and fade away when you reach a certain level of desirability.
And I only got a taste of what people can get away with since I was never as rich or famous as these Hollywood icons or high powered executives and politicians. Ultimately though, I underwent a change of heart and decided i would rather use my first hand knowledge of how evil perpetuates and cycles out of control, as a means to purge as much of it from the world as I could.
With or without Q, I know deep down that the same evil I've encountered, continues to exist unchecked in this world, and I have a sharper intuitive ability to recognize its existence than the average person.
And so I feel compelled to do my part to continue to call out those corrupt powerful individuals who continue to take advantage of the trust of the public, and with their allies in Big Tech and the media, continue to obfuscate the truth and push the illusion that the evil I claim to see, does not exist.
I trust in God enough for it to ultimately not matter whether Q is ever going to do anything or not. For as long as I continue to do my part, I am able to sleep comfortably at night.
I appreciate the long response, and I did read it. The next few days have gotten suddenly busy for me and I can’t afford you a proper reply at the moment, but I didn’t want you to think I ignored something that you clearly invested some thought into.
Of course friend. Take all the time you need. I can appreciate your difference of perspective most out of the majority of those who come here to criticize and mock.
We are much more alike in the end of all this than we are different. We all mostly want the same thing for ourselves and our nation. How we get there is ultimately what we will have to circum-navigate.
It is refreshing to hear that, truly. I heard it a lot more from both sides prior to 2016, and now, the polarization has us looking at each other through spyglasses.
I do believe the only path forward is to continue disagreeing and fighting on these important issues, but to go back to believing that we’re all hoping for a stable and successful country in which to exist comfortably when the smoke clears. The conflict is healthy, but I’d rather go back to seeing each other as opposing lawyers who can have a beer after a case than as potential future enemy combatants.
For sure man. I also deeply miss our American culture the way it was pre 2016. Movies and concerts and dance choreography were my shit. I used to do amateur ghost hunting gigs with some friends way back as well as urban exploration.
It was so cathartic to get completely embedded in such hobbies like that. Or going paintballing every other weekend and completely immersing yourself in fake gun fights haha. I miss that shit so much.
Nowadays it seems like everyone is just too hyperpolarized for much of that spontaneous fun I used to have with people of all backgrounds to be as easily manifest as before.
For an extrovert like me it was baffling to hear from so many "friends", that we could no longer be associated together because if I support Trump, it means I suddenly hate black people, women and think the military are suckers and losers 😑
I have faith that one day we can return to such times.
Ah so someone else WAS reading along our dialogue that day. I'm interested in what your thoughts were about what I had to say in my long reply.
Specifically when it came to the me speaking about my firsthand experience of wielding great power over others and using it for my own self gratification (what I believe evil is at its core, although obviously varies in different magnitudes).
And how because of that experience, I believe it's allowed me to much more effectively recognize when I see evil in the world and the media and big tech oligarchs reassure people that it's "a baseless conspiracy theory".
Do you think my proposition makes sense? Are those of us who have done evil things in the past much more capable of recognizing evil manifesting in our external reality?
Additionally, I'm curious as to whether you may have also experienced the same human tendency to deny having been victimized, taken advantage of, or manipulated?
Its always been something I've noticed and it seems to almost be a hardwired defense mechanism for humans to go to great lengths to try and rationalize emotional damage they've sustained by minimizing its effects, providing justifications for why the person hurt them, and even latching onto any bits of information that supports the notion that "there's no way it could have been malicious and deliberate".
Sorry, it took me a while. I've been writing this piecemeal over a couple of days.
I operate from parsimony (Occam's Razor). I first have to rule out the possibility that Q is just a nobody who, like a lot of nobodies on the chans during those days, was claiming to be an insider with vague claims and letting his followers interpret. I have not been able to prove this possibility wrong, and since I think Q directly and falsely took credit for the 2018 "tippy top" proof (since "tippy top" was an established part of Trump's speech vocabulary since at least 2016), then I still need to rule that out. I'm nowhere near considering the possibility that this is some sort of targeted psyop against your demographic specifically.
GOOD! There are TONS of bad people out there! There are indeed pedophiles and conspiracies and famous people who are hiding crimes. No question. Even if Q proves not to be a credible source of the reality of those crimes, I would NEVER suggest letting your guard down. The media absolutely is biased. Experts can absolutely be wrong. Trustworthy people can absolutely be snakes.
With respect, NOBODY has extreme immunity to this. Good researchers will deliberately take steps (like double-blinding) to prevent their own natural biases from affecting their data. They NEVER assume they have some sort of special resistance as a researcher.
Nobody who gets brainwashed believes they are brainwashed. Believing you're immune to brainwashing is the surest way to become vulnerable to it.
This is true. I am no friend of big pharma and have guaranteed taking more productive actions in opposition to their bullshittery than almost anymore here.
What I also recognize is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
I can absolutely believe that big pharma would jack up the price of necessary medications when they're necessary. That's very much in character, because they're motivated by profit. And I've seen the evidence of it happening.
The evidence I would need to be convinced that these companies and the countless doctors and scientists working with them and with their data are all part of an airtight conspiracy to spread a poison to hundreds of millions of innocent people by tricking them with a fake vaccine? That would need to be extraordinary.
It's not a binary position. I do not like big pharma. I also don't think the evidence supports the claims about them that Q people make, at least with regards to a toxic vaccine. And the primary Q source of this have been mistaken interpretations of VAERS, so I feel okay with this conclusion so far.
You'd be right.
Luckily, the pharmaceutical companies are not the ones I put my faith in.
There are way, way, WAY more scientists "on your side" than you think.
The problem is that you think being "on your side" means finding evidence to prove the vaccine is dangerous.
Being "on your side" means "working really, really hard and using expertise to figure out the truth and deliver it to you, even if the truth is different than what you thought."
There are plenty of scientists who have sought real data, done good experiments, and provided their honest and expert interpretations. But the vast majority of them don't support the notion that the vaccine is dangerous. And because that seems like a lie to Q people, that has made every non-pharma company source of pharmaceutical information just as guilty by association.
So now, no university is considered reliable verification of vaccine safety. No watchdog groups. No government entities. No major independent scientific organizations.
It seems the only way to prove that you're an honest, uncompromised scientist in the Q world is to support the notion that the vaccine is dangerous. I can't operate under this assumption.
Well, solely benevolent? No, probably not. But not being solely benevolent does not mean "evil" or "catastrophically deceptive" or even "oppositional."
Could their motivation be "not failing miserably to help provide a solution to a worldwide medical problem and establish their importance in the world as a provider of medical solutions?"
That is a perfectly reasonable, selfish, profit-oriented motivation for even an evil pharmaceutical company to take. "They make medicine. So they make a good medicine when people really need it, and people keep buying medicine from them."
I am not going to proceed to cartoonish motivations when that one fits everything just fine and doesn't require dehumanizing a field made up of real individuals.
Well, I've never seen a devil do this, but I've seen plenty of PEOPLE manipulate people for those reasons. I know you think it's being done to me, but I with equal or greater passion think it's possibly being done to you. At least it's nice that we both care.
Don't let the rich and famous trick you into thinking that actual power has anything to do with being rich and famous. Fame and riches often come to people who have acquired power, and power can be used to acquire fame and riches if someone is interested in such things. But failing to attain one is no real obstacle to another.
Understand too, though, that the only way to become smarter is to recognize that you don't know as much as you think you do, and to never assume you're interacting with an "average" person.
Which, in general, is why I do not assume I'm smarter or sharper than anybody. Even when I have been, the attitude has never offered me any productive advantage that humility and the assumption of ignorance has not.
I wouldn't be here if I felt like I could prove Q wrong. It doesn't mean that I think Q is right, but I know exactly how I could be proven wrong. I've made my beliefs falsifiable. I am willing to test predictions based on my worldview.
If I am wrong, then I've only become smarter as a result. AND I have the foolproof evidence of it.
Win-win, either way.
That's fine. Fight media bias. Question authority. Fight for transparency. I'm 100% on board with all of this, and have even offered my own advice for taking these actions on this very board.
Just remember that you're searching for the truth, not trying to prove YOUR truth. Don't reject sources, reject arguments on empirical grounds. Don't trust, but verify. Verify, then trust.
If Q is trustworthy, then what he wants are people who know how to find the truth. And that process is FAR more involved than "answer my vague questions" and "watch these bitchute videos."
He'll want people who know how to walk away from misleading evidence that makes this movement look stupid. He'll want people who know how to reject hypothetical fantasy theories in favor of more painful but well-evidenced ones.
Most importantly, Q would not be stupid enough to think that a warless, safe Great Awakening occurs without intelligent, reasonable people putting up a serious defense to the reality Q has presented, and if he really does value high thinkers, cynics, questioning the narrative, and so forth, then he's smart enough to have known they wouldn't have immediately flocked to him based solely on what he's presented so far.
Anyway, I as I said, I appreciate your thoughts, and hopefully didn't say anything too controversial here. I enjoy being here and discussing the perspective offered by GAW users. I hope that eventually people will give up on trying to prove I'm eventually going to whip off the mask and reveal I was George Soros all along.