The British Whigs were largely supportive of the American colonists in their calls for proper representation. Well before the creation of the American Whig Party, many of our Founding Fathers (regardless of their American Party affiliation) were influenced by British Whigs principles. Even influential religious leaders from the time have been considered by historians to have been influenced by Whiggery. Jonathan Mayhew for instance, whose popular Discourse on Unlimited Submission that was essential for setting the religious/philosphical conscience for approval of resistance theory, has often been linked to having his "whiggish" political thought influence his religious teachings. I once wrote a paper arguing that it was the other way around, that his religious principles shaped his political views, which Whiggism tended to reflect.
Were the American Whigs necessarily bad? JQA was America's greatest diplomat and like his father, has been unfairly ranked as "bad" presidents simply because they tried to avoid wars and ensure boring peace. Daniel Webster was arguably one of America's greatest political orators and anti-slavery advocates. Henry Clay, the Great Compromiser, was arguably the most gifted American statesman to unfortunately never become president. Lincoln, arguably the greatest American statesman, started as a Whig and was heavily influenced by Clay. Anti-slavery former Whigs were instrumental in helping to establish the Free Soil Party and then the Republican Party.
Whigs were anti-Masonic 👍 and anti-Jacksonian. Trump is often (wrongly) compared to Jackson in a good light. Comparison to populist support, sure, but Jackson wasn't that great in reality. Sure, he balanced the budget, and there's the huge issue of the National Bank... but that's a massively complex, often misunderstood situation. But he supported slavery and absolutely fucked over the south eastern Indian tribes who allied with the US against the British and hostile tribes who allied with the British. Andy personally promised to protect the Cherokee. And yet... Worcester v. Georgia was correctly ruled, but Andy opposed the decision. Not great stuff. He continued in the footsteps of Madison and Jefferson in significant increase in the power of the executive (ironically, all becoming very much Hamiltonian). It was also during the Jacksonian Era that the last state holdouts against winner-take-all electoral systems finally were forced to cave. The Constitutional presidential Electoral system was hence destroyed in favor of general WTA bullshit direct democracy.
Tippicannoe and Taylor both end up dead in office. Both opposed Democrat aims to expand slavery. Tyler, His Ascendancy, literally stole the presidency after WHH [was eliminated] died in office. Tyler pushed for the annexation of Texas to expand slavery. Clay should have been president, but lost to Polk, a POS slavery promoter who finished Tyler's plan to annex Texas and then instigated an illegal war with Mexico to expand slave territory (see Lincoln's brilliant speech condemning Polk). Dominos towards Civil War start falling. Taylor, useful idiot [Polk ordered him to move his troops into the disputed Texas/Mexico border to instigate war] turned popular war hero, also dies in office, hmmm. Noticing a pattern yet? Compromise of 1850 (props to Clay and Webster) eases tension. But then Democracts + slavery promoting/tolerating Whigs (like Douglas) utilize Dred Scott (fuck Roger Taney) and break everything with Kansas-Nebraska Act. Whig Party gone. Anti-slavery parties form. Lincoln. Rebellion. Nation preserved. Another "Whig" president dies in office. Tippicannoe, Taylor and Lincoln all eliminated... coincidence?
Historians 300 years from now: 300 years ago, the 45th and 47th president of the United States was correct about our waters.
The British Whigs were largely supportive of the American colonists in their calls for proper representation. Well before the creation of the American Whig Party, many of our Founding Fathers (regardless of their American Party affiliation) were influenced by British Whigs principles. Even influential religious leaders from the time have been considered by historians to have been influenced by Whiggery. Jonathan Mayhew for instance, whose popular Discourse on Unlimited Submission that was essential for setting the religious/philosphical conscience for approval of resistance theory, has often been linked to having his "whiggish" political thought influence his religious teachings. I once wrote a paper arguing that it was the other way around, that his religious principles shaped his political views, which Whiggism tended to reflect.
Were the American Whigs necessarily bad? JQA was America's greatest diplomat and like his father, has been unfairly ranked as "bad" presidents simply because they tried to avoid wars and ensure boring peace. Daniel Webster was arguably one of America's greatest political orators and anti-slavery advocates. Henry Clay, the Great Compromiser, was arguably the most gifted American statesman to unfortunately never become president. Lincoln, arguably the greatest American statesman, started as a Whig and was heavily influenced by Clay. Anti-slavery former Whigs were instrumental in helping to establish the Free Soil Party and then the Republican Party.
Whigs were anti-Masonic 👍 and anti-Jacksonian. Trump is often (wrongly) compared to Jackson in a good light. Comparison to populist support, sure, but Jackson wasn't that great in reality. Sure, he balanced the budget, and there's the huge issue of the National Bank... but that's a massively complex, often misunderstood situation. But he supported slavery and absolutely fucked over the south eastern Indian tribes who allied with the US against the British and hostile tribes who allied with the British. Andy personally promised to protect the Cherokee. And yet... Worcester v. Georgia was correctly ruled, but Andy opposed the decision. Not great stuff. He continued in the footsteps of Madison and Jefferson in significant increase in the power of the executive (ironically, all becoming very much Hamiltonian). It was also during the Jacksonian Era that the last state holdouts against winner-take-all electoral systems finally were forced to cave. The Constitutional presidential Electoral system was hence destroyed in favor of general WTA bullshit direct democracy.
Tippicannoe and Taylor both end up dead in office. Both opposed Democrat aims to expand slavery. Tyler, His Ascendancy, literally stole the presidency after WHH [was eliminated] died in office. Tyler pushed for the annexation of Texas to expand slavery. Clay should have been president, but lost to Polk, a POS slavery promoter who finished Tyler's plan to annex Texas and then instigated an illegal war with Mexico to expand slave territory (see Lincoln's brilliant speech condemning Polk). Dominos towards Civil War start falling. Taylor, useful idiot [Polk ordered him to move his troops into the disputed Texas/Mexico border to instigate war] turned popular war hero, also dies in office, hmmm. Noticing a pattern yet? Compromise of 1850 (props to Clay and Webster) eases tension. But then Democracts + slavery promoting/tolerating Whigs (like Douglas) utilize Dred Scott (fuck Roger Taney) and break everything with Kansas-Nebraska Act. Whig Party gone. Anti-slavery parties form. Lincoln. Rebellion. Nation preserved. Another "Whig" president dies in office. Tippicannoe, Taylor and Lincoln all eliminated... coincidence?