To recap on the relevant part of the movie for this. In the movie, the final plan that Ramius and the Americans decided on (and the best plan if it were to work) was to have Ramius defect to the USA with the Red October submarine while convincing the Soviets that the Red October had been sunk and destroyed.
Ramius had an option to get off of the Red October along with the rest of his crew when he engineered the nuclear problem (see Part I).
However, he did not choose this option. Let’s imagine the chain of events had he taken this option. Moscow had asked the USA to intervene and shoot down the Red October on the premise that Ramius went rogue and wanted to fire nukes at the USA.
If Ramius had successfully defected to the USA and Moscow knew about it, Moscow would not be able to save face. Both the Soviets and the USA would know about the “caterpillar” technology the Soviets developed with the purpose of having nuclear warheads reach American shores undetected.
Moscow would then feel equally unsafe about the Red October being in the hands of the Americans. Nuclear tensions between the two countries would have gone through the roof and diplomatic relations could have broken down.
The consequences would have been incalculable. Ramius plan to remain inside the Red October to stage a “false flag” sinking of his own sub would have been the highest “yield” solution for both countries and for himself.
So how does this relate to Zelensky, Putin, Trump and the war in Ukraine right now?
My hypothesis is based on the premise that the current war is according to the plans of Trump and that Zelensky is not who he seems to be.
If you are of the view that Zelensky if simply a hypocrite or a defender of the deep state and are unwilling to entertain another possibility, then you should read no further.
First, the background of Zelensky. He was born and raised in Kryvyi Rih as a Russian speaker. He only learned Ukrainian and English afterwards.
His grandfather fought in the Red Army against the Nazis in the Second World War. His grandfather’s three other brothers all died by the Nazis.
Zelensky’s main platform for winning the election was to bring about a peace deal in Eastern Ukraine or the Donbass region.
Now let’s assume Zelensky genuinely wants peace in Donbass. When he came to power, what would have stopped him if he just wanted to make a straight deal with the Russians for peace?
The answer is very public now but it wasn’t so obvious back then to everybody in the West. The Nazis, Azov battalion, other rogue fighter groups, extremists in Ukraine financed by the US Deep State essentially would hold a legitimate Ukrainian government hostage.
Why couldn’t Trump just solve the problem himself you might ask?
Root out the evils in Ukraine while he was still in office and had power. Think about how dangerous that would have been for Trump had the current story not fully come out?
Kolomoisky and Soros funding of the Nazis would have done their best to push Russia into action in Ukraine. What could Trump do at that point? Bioweapons released for false flag attacks by the Russians, the media screaming Russian collusion.
It would be a horrible situation to be in. It had to be this way. Trump had to step away to let the Deep State reveal itself.
Now that we have the context of the whole situation in view, what can we begin to see?
We can begin to see what we need to get from this Ukraine war in the big picture of things.
We need to reveal the extent of Biden and Deep State corruption in the Ukraine.
We need to destroy the Nazi army occupation in the Ukraine.
We need to neutralize the biolabs in Ukraine to prevent false flags and another pandemic from happening.
There’s probably more that we cannot see, but what we can see is more than enough to paint the picture.
The evil that resides in Ukraine is our Red October.
Hence, Zelensky or Putin can fill the role of Ramius in our story.
Remember the posts that Zelensky was actually communicating with Putin in telling him exactly where to bomb?
Of course, none of this can be confirmed. There are things that will never be revealed to the public. But I have a feeling that by the time this war is over, Zelensky, Putin and Trump will have all achieved exactly what they wanted in the very beginning.
Zelensky will rid his country of the Nazi battalions that have essentially overthrown the regular army.
There will be peace in Donbass via a treaty with Putin.
Putin will have achieved a purge of all the US biolabs in Ukraine, secured a neutral Ukraine and peace in the Donbass region.
Trump will have shown the American people just how far Biden was willing to go to protect his corrupt dealings with Ukraine.
If you can see the big picture, you will see that it had to be this way and that the best is yet to come.
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Well it’s certainly a forced position for Deep State to be in isn’t it? If you invert your thinking and ask yourself what the alternatives are, there really isn’t any is there? I’m sure Zelensky is viewed as a disposable tool by the Deep State. They will support him as long as he continues to sing their tune. And he will. Until he won’t.
Well the alternative would be to out him. Frame him as unable to lead in a time of war and replace him with one of their Azov puppets and give them the stage during the transition, filled with “inspiring” scripted dialogue. I mean, they could even give the ol’ Russian collusion narrative another go. After all, it was the call with Zelensky that got Trump impeached. The West wouldn’t question it. Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand the angle.
I fully welcome your arguments and different perspective. I don't have all the answers, but I will give my best shot at explaining my view.
We have to understand that this is an extremely complex situation and any move like replacing the current leader will involve enormous calculus and runs through game theory.
But let's take your alternative and analyze it. We take out Zelensky. How? Assassination? They certainly can't hold much of an election right now. There's the war and the fact that Zelensky basically arrested his biggest pro-Russian opposition and banned a few other parties as well.
So let's say Zelensky gets a bullet to the head. Who do we replace him with? A pro Nazi candidate like Poroshenko? He ended his presidency with a 7% approval rating. But I wonder, does he dare step into Zelensky's shoes at the moment? What kind of a mad man would dare come take Zelensky's position right now? Yes, an Azov general might like to do it. But how much international support would such a man garner?
Zelensky for all his supposed faults is still a likeable man in the eyes of the regular viewer. And on the surface he's touting the lines the Deep State wants him to. It's extremely risky to replace him and lose all the goodwill he has built from his show.