Does that mean Israel shouldn't exist or we should create a white nation for the white race too? Why not make more Israel-style nations and follow their moral teachings for how to deal with minorities and other races who live on their land?
Here's a solution: we group all the Jewish races together for the purposes of discussion and refer to them as ether the "Jewish races" or the "Jewish race".
They all seem to recognize each other as members of the Jewish race, so the argument becomes academic.
Yes you are focusing on them - you're discussing them right now.
Israel is worth focusing on within the context of nationalism because Israel is the only officially recognized country for a specific race. That's true whether you down-vote it or not.
There were many high ranking Jews and atheists in Hitler's military.
Hitler wasn't fighting against Jews, he was fighting against the German Communist Party, most of whom were Jewish. Everything slowly started to change after the World Conference of Jews declared a world-wide Jewish holy war against Germany in 1933. Most Germans stopped trusting any Jews after that point because nobody knew which Jews were part of the Jewish holy war against them.
There's a big distinction between fighting communists and race war, even if the communists are mostly from a specific race.
Israel is for people born into the Jewish religion. Jewish people today have various racial backgrounds--North African, Asian, Middle Eastern, Spanish, Sephardic, Mizrahi, and so on. Ashkenazi Jews, who are mainly from Eastern Europe (such as Bibi from Poland), are the largest group in Israel. To gain an Israeli passport, one has to give evidence of a certain degree of blood relative being Jewish. This is confusing, because it makes it seem like a racial thing. It's matrilineal, so if your mother is Jewish, you are considered to be Jewish born, even if your father is not. Throughout the diaspora, Jewish people have intermarried with some who did not come from Jewish bloodlines.
There are two main non-Jewish groups who converted to Judaism long ago: the Edomites who joined with the Southern Kingdom of Judah (Edomites were descended from Jacob's brother Esau) and the Khazarians who once had a kingdom in what today is the Ukraine. The Rus defeated them and they left Khazaria. Kiev was originally the capital of Russia. Khazarian descendants invaded Ukraine in 2014 to gain control of their former kingdom. They took over the government and killed native Ukrainians, who are Slavs, basically a branch of the Russian people. Now you see why there is so much "Russia bad, Putin bad" in the Khazarian controlled news.
As for the ten tribes of Northern Israel, who were carried away by the Assyrians, some people believe they eventually dispersed across the Caucasus mountains into what is now Europe and the British Isles. This theory (just a theory) is sometimes called "British Israelism," but I read that Queen Victoria believed she was a descendant, so there you go. There are evidences that some Northern tribesmen got as far as Japan. When Jewish people visit, they recognize some of the customs. For example, Japanese always celebrate their festivals by carrying around a portable shrine, called "omikoshi." These somewhat resemble the concept of the Ark of the Covenant. The Shinto shrines and priests somewhat resemble the priesthood and temple of Jerusalem. There are some artifacts with Hebrew writing on them. It goes on, but you get the idea.
I wasn't actually addressing the legal Israeli definition of a Jew. People who practice the religion of Judaism consider themselves to be Jewish, regardless of the amount of Jewish blood they have. Sammy Davis Jr. converted to the religion, Elizabeth Taylor converted, Marilyn Monroe converted. They will then say "I am Jewish or I am of the Jewish faith or I converted to Judaism." The original idea of modern Israel was to return the historical people of ancient Judah to their former ancestral homeland. It is very difficult to separate their religious beliefs from their notions of racial exclusivity.
I am aware that Israel has standards of who can be considered Jewish "enough" in order to apply for Israeli citizenship, which is a little broader than being born of a Jewish mother only. I tried to indicate this in the post. I couldn't recall the exact degree of bloodline Jewishness required. I have 2 nieces who are half Jewish through their father, and I believe they would be allowed to emigrate to Israel if they chose, even though their mother is not Jewish. Most of us grow up into a religion, but we are not racially born as Buddhists or Christians or whatever. As far as I know, Jewishness is the only category that can sometimes be considered as religion and sometimes as race and sometimes as both. Thus, the confusion.
I try to be as accurate as time will allow me to be. I study a lot, and my memory recall is pretty good, although not perfectly so. Sometimes I don't want to spend extra time reaffirming what I have previously read unless I am in some doubt about it or it seems important "enough" to refresh about the details. So if you think I was less than honest, I am sorry you feel so. I did not intentionally "lie" about anything, nor did I intend to be inaccurate. I wrote everything from memory.
Knowing a bit of history concerning the development of the Jewish people, I do not consider them to be all of one "race" of people, and this is why my personal feeling is that it has more to do with their religious beliefs concerning being the only chosen people of God, than so much to do with a certain set of genetics. Racial homogeneity of Jewish people became mixed with some gentiles a long time ago. Ethiopian Jews are Black. They obviously are not of the same race as the Ashkenazim who predominate in Israel. The standards for who can qualify as an Israeli were set sometime after or during the establishment of modern Israel. It is a certain degree of bloodline ties through mother/father/grandmother/grandfather (as you say) who is Jewish. So by this standard you can be considered "racially" Jewish if you are only one-quarter Jewish and three-quarters gentile. Another degree and you would be one-eighth. Non-qualifying, I guess. But you could be one-eighth Jewish or less and still choose to identify as Jewish and practice the Jewish religion of your ancestor(s).
There are different sects within Judaism and there are Jewish people who are not deeply religious. Something they seem to have in common: 1. The belief that they are God's [only] chosen people, descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 2. The belief that the historical area of ancient Israel was intended to be their permanent possession. 3. Jesus Christ is not the promised Messiah, but either an imposter or just a teacher or prophet. Apart from the requirements to have a degree of blood ties to Jewishness to gain Israeli citizenship, there are very strong ties to certain tenets of Judaism in the Israeli state. This is harder to quantify, and it may be they simply chose a certain amount of "Jewish blood" as an easier standard to go by.
To understand ancient Israel and Judah, we have to read the OT and NT of the Bible without the Scofield commentary which turned a lot of Americans into Christian Zionists who worship modern Israel.
To understand modern Judaism, we must know also something about the Talmud, Zohar, Kabbalah, in addition to accurate history, which is hard to come by. I think it might be more accurate if Israel had been named the "State of Judah" and if it was described as "the only state exclusively for those who adhere to the main tenets of Judaism who were born recently into Jewish families," along with "And we want you non-Jewish people to get outta here because we want to live by ourselves." That is too wordy and too honest, so they just say "Israel is the only Jewish state." (Established by Rothschild, paid for by the blood of WWI and WW2)
The Khazarian Jews have been following Jewish faith and breeding with Ashkenazi Jews for 1,200 years. The Rothschild Jews converted to Judaism about 260 years ago.
So who are your real Jews then? Where do they live?
Abraham was actually a Hebrew. Racially speaking he was a Semite, of the lineage of Shem, Noah's son.The nickname "Jewish" came along later. Comes from the tribe of Judah, one of Jacob's sons.
The nickname "Jewish" came along later AND Abraham was a Jew. So were all his wives and children. In the same way that oranges existed before we named them.
Wew - that's an awesome list of resources with lots of fantastic memes!
The video with the demon was hilarious! Murder Hobo - kek.
The research about the six pointed Star of Remphan and the research linking (((23andMe))), (((YouTube))) and (((Google))) was fantastic and relates directly to that Q post that I can't remember the number for.
We should favor nationalism of all types. Every nation should be proud of their culture and their heritage. To hades with globalism.
Does that mean Israel shouldn't exist or we should create a white nation for the white race too? Why not make more Israel-style nations and follow their moral teachings for how to deal with minorities and other races who live on their land?
Israel is the official nation for the Jewish race.
Here's a solution: we group all the Jewish races together for the purposes of discussion and refer to them as ether the "Jewish races" or the "Jewish race".
They all seem to recognize each other as members of the Jewish race, so the argument becomes academic.
Yes you are focusing on them - you're discussing them right now.
Israel is worth focusing on within the context of nationalism because Israel is the only officially recognized country for a specific race. That's true whether you down-vote it or not.
There were many high ranking Jews and atheists in Hitler's military.
Hitler wasn't fighting against Jews, he was fighting against the German Communist Party, most of whom were Jewish. Everything slowly started to change after the World Conference of Jews declared a world-wide Jewish holy war against Germany in 1933. Most Germans stopped trusting any Jews after that point because nobody knew which Jews were part of the Jewish holy war against them.
There's a big distinction between fighting communists and race war, even if the communists are mostly from a specific race.
Israel is for people born into the Jewish religion. Jewish people today have various racial backgrounds--North African, Asian, Middle Eastern, Spanish, Sephardic, Mizrahi, and so on. Ashkenazi Jews, who are mainly from Eastern Europe (such as Bibi from Poland), are the largest group in Israel. To gain an Israeli passport, one has to give evidence of a certain degree of blood relative being Jewish. This is confusing, because it makes it seem like a racial thing. It's matrilineal, so if your mother is Jewish, you are considered to be Jewish born, even if your father is not. Throughout the diaspora, Jewish people have intermarried with some who did not come from Jewish bloodlines.
There are two main non-Jewish groups who converted to Judaism long ago: the Edomites who joined with the Southern Kingdom of Judah (Edomites were descended from Jacob's brother Esau) and the Khazarians who once had a kingdom in what today is the Ukraine. The Rus defeated them and they left Khazaria. Kiev was originally the capital of Russia. Khazarian descendants invaded Ukraine in 2014 to gain control of their former kingdom. They took over the government and killed native Ukrainians, who are Slavs, basically a branch of the Russian people. Now you see why there is so much "Russia bad, Putin bad" in the Khazarian controlled news.
As for the ten tribes of Northern Israel, who were carried away by the Assyrians, some people believe they eventually dispersed across the Caucasus mountains into what is now Europe and the British Isles. This theory (just a theory) is sometimes called "British Israelism," but I read that Queen Victoria believed she was a descendant, so there you go. There are evidences that some Northern tribesmen got as far as Japan. When Jewish people visit, they recognize some of the customs. For example, Japanese always celebrate their festivals by carrying around a portable shrine, called "omikoshi." These somewhat resemble the concept of the Ark of the Covenant. The Shinto shrines and priests somewhat resemble the priesthood and temple of Jerusalem. There are some artifacts with Hebrew writing on them. It goes on, but you get the idea.
Wrong.
The legal Israeli definition of a Jew is someone with at least one Jewish parent or grandparent by bloodline.
I didn't bother to read the rest of what you wrote given your first statement was untrue.
"According to traditional Jewish law (halacha), Jewishness is passed down through the mother. So, if your mother was Jewish, you are too."
Quote from: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ask-the-expert-matrilineal-descent
I wasn't actually addressing the legal Israeli definition of a Jew. People who practice the religion of Judaism consider themselves to be Jewish, regardless of the amount of Jewish blood they have. Sammy Davis Jr. converted to the religion, Elizabeth Taylor converted, Marilyn Monroe converted. They will then say "I am Jewish or I am of the Jewish faith or I converted to Judaism." The original idea of modern Israel was to return the historical people of ancient Judah to their former ancestral homeland. It is very difficult to separate their religious beliefs from their notions of racial exclusivity.
I am aware that Israel has standards of who can be considered Jewish "enough" in order to apply for Israeli citizenship, which is a little broader than being born of a Jewish mother only. I tried to indicate this in the post. I couldn't recall the exact degree of bloodline Jewishness required. I have 2 nieces who are half Jewish through their father, and I believe they would be allowed to emigrate to Israel if they chose, even though their mother is not Jewish. Most of us grow up into a religion, but we are not racially born as Buddhists or Christians or whatever. As far as I know, Jewishness is the only category that can sometimes be considered as religion and sometimes as race and sometimes as both. Thus, the confusion.
I try to be as accurate as time will allow me to be. I study a lot, and my memory recall is pretty good, although not perfectly so. Sometimes I don't want to spend extra time reaffirming what I have previously read unless I am in some doubt about it or it seems important "enough" to refresh about the details. So if you think I was less than honest, I am sorry you feel so. I did not intentionally "lie" about anything, nor did I intend to be inaccurate. I wrote everything from memory.
Knowing a bit of history concerning the development of the Jewish people, I do not consider them to be all of one "race" of people, and this is why my personal feeling is that it has more to do with their religious beliefs concerning being the only chosen people of God, than so much to do with a certain set of genetics. Racial homogeneity of Jewish people became mixed with some gentiles a long time ago. Ethiopian Jews are Black. They obviously are not of the same race as the Ashkenazim who predominate in Israel. The standards for who can qualify as an Israeli were set sometime after or during the establishment of modern Israel. It is a certain degree of bloodline ties through mother/father/grandmother/grandfather (as you say) who is Jewish. So by this standard you can be considered "racially" Jewish if you are only one-quarter Jewish and three-quarters gentile. Another degree and you would be one-eighth. Non-qualifying, I guess. But you could be one-eighth Jewish or less and still choose to identify as Jewish and practice the Jewish religion of your ancestor(s).
There are different sects within Judaism and there are Jewish people who are not deeply religious. Something they seem to have in common: 1. The belief that they are God's [only] chosen people, descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 2. The belief that the historical area of ancient Israel was intended to be their permanent possession. 3. Jesus Christ is not the promised Messiah, but either an imposter or just a teacher or prophet. Apart from the requirements to have a degree of blood ties to Jewishness to gain Israeli citizenship, there are very strong ties to certain tenets of Judaism in the Israeli state. This is harder to quantify, and it may be they simply chose a certain amount of "Jewish blood" as an easier standard to go by.
To understand ancient Israel and Judah, we have to read the OT and NT of the Bible without the Scofield commentary which turned a lot of Americans into Christian Zionists who worship modern Israel.
To understand modern Judaism, we must know also something about the Talmud, Zohar, Kabbalah, in addition to accurate history, which is hard to come by. I think it might be more accurate if Israel had been named the "State of Judah" and if it was described as "the only state exclusively for those who adhere to the main tenets of Judaism who were born recently into Jewish families," along with "And we want you non-Jewish people to get outta here because we want to live by ourselves." That is too wordy and too honest, so they just say "Israel is the only Jewish state." (Established by Rothschild, paid for by the blood of WWI and WW2)
The Khazarian Jews have been following Jewish faith and breeding with Ashkenazi Jews for 1,200 years. The Rothschild Jews converted to Judaism about 260 years ago.
So who are your real Jews then? Where do they live?
Kek. Yes, I've seen that chart before. It's like a black African mother telling her twin sons that one is African and one is not African.
You are attempting to strawman this discussion by making it about family trees rather than race.
We are discussing race.
Abraham was of the Jewish race and he had three wives that were all also of the Jewish race.
All of Abraham's children were of the Jewish race.
Kek - we both know how silly this is getting and two thoroughbred horses don't produce a zebras and donkeys.
Ha ha ha ha ha. Please show your love by down-voting my thorough rebuttal of nonsense.
Abraham was actually a Hebrew. Racially speaking he was a Semite, of the lineage of Shem, Noah's son.The nickname "Jewish" came along later. Comes from the tribe of Judah, one of Jacob's sons.
The nickname "Jewish" came along later AND Abraham was a Jew. So were all his wives and children. In the same way that oranges existed before we named them.
Wew - that's an awesome list of resources with lots of fantastic memes!
The video with the demon was hilarious! Murder Hobo - kek.
The research about the six pointed Star of Remphan and the research linking (((23andMe))), (((YouTube))) and (((Google))) was fantastic and relates directly to that Q post that I can't remember the number for.
I am familiar with MontyMole's good works because I've seen his research about the "origins of the six million Jewish Holocaust death-toll number" comment linked in another post.
Thanks for the red-pills!
I love it!
Do you have any more resources like these?
Israel is very different because it's officially recognized as the nation of the Jewish race. We both know this.
Because
One doesn't allow Bolchevik criminals.
The difference is who is holding the microphone.