Apparently we need to "get our heads out of our asses"...
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I think it means something different to people incapable of critical thought and prone to cognitive dissonance - which is a part of fundamentalist thought.
Again, similar to brainwashed lefties.
So while no, I do not believ Christ is explicitly the Only true god (REEEEEEE!!!!) due to context of the time it made sense for him to be expressing however, as an extension of god incarnate, to push that there is only one true god because at the time that is what the fight was. The things your mentioning, for whatever reason, you and other fundamentalist believe apply 1:1 to today and that the translations are all accurate and all intended to be taken without any grains of salt.
However, the good thing about even that fundamentalist nutjob mindset is that it can and does refine the process of helping people become better Nd try for more and live better lives closer to god and goodness so they are better equipped for whatever the afterlife holds.
I believe in god - but I believe all roads lead to Rome. Only people who explicitly deny Christ and do so as a snub at god have anything to worry about. The rest of us will come out the other end fine.
So...it isnt just all of the other parts of the Bible that you don't believe, you also don't even believe the red letter (Christ's words) parts of the corroborated Gospels that you referenced so much. Unfortunately, that leaves you with no basis for your belief system other than one of your own making, which is something other than Christianity.
Your rage against "fundamentalism" may be convenient justification for throwing all of the beliefs of Christianity away, but it leaves you with nothing of Christianity.
This is basic (granted, archaic) MSM bullshit - the New Testament. So while we get one story on Fox, another on CNN, another on OANN and another from internet journos/anons - what does one do? Believe all four as “gospel”? Believe just one and make it our own narrative based on feelings?
I’m sure you know the answer - take each with a grain of salt and apply critical thinking to any common threads, right?
So I do believe christs story and words - but I don’t hinge on just one specific quote as the crux of what I believe, and I find a lot of people do (the John quote above perhaps for example). As with the msm narrative, is the picking and choosing that quote based on feelings? What do the other gospels say in their version of those quotes? What is the common thread among the “editorializing”, if you will?
I believe Christ is “a” way, perhaps the most simple/effective way, but not the only way however.
Again, no qualms with Christ, no qualms with the Bible, but I do take issue with fundamentalists - again, cuz they’re effectively liberals. In the MSM example, fundamentalists are the sheep that keep the great lie moving and thus many from finding the truth. And about as equally annoying to deal with due to the massive ego involved.
You have qualms with Christ stating that he is the way, the truth and the life in John 14:6.
You have qualms with the Bible in that you contend that it can't be taken at face value (OT, NT and/or Gospels).
New Testament literally must be taken with a grain of salt purely due to the fact it was pieces together by what were effectively “deep state” politicians.
The gospels are the part that is most important and can be taken with less salt because there is so much more corroboration. However, you’re stuck on John - but go look what the others say he said.
Again, like liberals - instead of “trust the science” and backing fauci, you’re choosing Johns word over the other three combined and contrasted. But hey, to be fair, as with liberals, if you questioned things and applied critical thinking and objectivity then your narrative bubble would collapse.
I’m still waiting on the explanation for Revelations explicitly mentioning that it applies to their generations and their time (at the time of writing) as well as waiting on you to read the other gospels.
Funny thing is you’re possibly feeling smug and such when posting your quotes (again, liberal …). Ultimately you do you tho, by default you are on the right team and that’s all that matters.
Your problem, u/chessus, really appears to be with Jesus and not "fundamentalists". It was Jesus in the red letters of the "corroborated Gospel" that said this:
6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)
Nope, problem is legit with fundamentalist. Fundamentalist are a bunch of waterhead baby types (or liberals in reverse if you will) who think that not only for certain was the Bible written for and speaking specifically to their time and timeline, but also that it is meant to be taken literally word for word.
I’m guessing i struck a chord because you are one of the maniacal modern sects of Christianiaty (modern meaning formed in the last two hundred years by self proclaimed prophets … you know, Mormons, Pentecostals, etc
Bhsljhheehahd djhagghssheeb llllppffffltttbvmbvshwyjkalfpb ^ the above was me translating some speaking in tongues I just had into txt, it says that all u r said is inspired by Jesus and and for sure is his word. You believe jon of potmos apparently with absolutely zero reason to when he says that, so no reason you shouldn’t believe me.
Your default to, and reliance on, logical fallacy (poisoning the well) may be a strong indicator of the status of your position in this discussion.
New agey modern liberal type arguments of saying “well this is the tool you are using to prove your side” - cute, thanks for affirming my point further than fundies are effectively liberals.
Because we all know why and when they use those tactics of saying “that’s just gaslighting” or in your example “poisining the well” - right? It’s when they are wrong and unable to defend their feelings/side because it hits a point where they can’t because their entire logic and belief was based on emotion vs logic of any kind.
It’s not rocket science - and in spiritual things it is almost simpler than ideological things, which kinda points to fundies being even lower on the food chain than liberals. ALMOST. I’ll be critical and mean even, but not that mean ;)
Hey I gtg, maybe we can do this again in a week. Until then, have fun worshipping literally anyone who got their letters out into the New Testament instead of worshipping god.