I intend to keep reading and studying not because I have any worry about my own salvation. But because I want to be used however God wants to use me in bringing about his kingdom. And when I look at the scriptures I see Jesus warning us of severe tests of faith in the coming times. I don't see him saying that his warnings are just for the Jews or the unbeliever.
Actually. Consider them though. When the beast rises, some of them will reject the beast just from natural disgust for tyranny and degeneracy. And we are going to have a greater role in leading them to Christ. But not if we're unprepared. And certainly not if we're floating around in the clouds.
And we are going to have a greater role in leading them to Christ.
Exactly
Revelation 1 KJV 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the -->prince of the kings of the earth.<-- Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Very first chapter in Revelation, already in Heaven, before any seals are broken, are those washed in the blood of Christ. This is very specific and it can only be the church, the body of Christ.
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
We are made KINGS and PRIESTS. To RULE and to TEACH. We sit in judgement of the angels, right? We are given cities to rule over, right? Flesh makes it through to the Millennial, when satan is let out of the pit at the end of the thousand years, he deceives the nations again, gathering them against the saints. We are ONE FLESH with Christ after the marriage supper, we will have the mind of Christ, this is for the purpose of us leading unbelievers to their salvation during the thousand years.
(bonus study - satan is chained in the pit for a the thousand years for one reason; it takes away the human excuse that it is satan's fault that we sin.)
Understand something else, there are angels among us now. Some as unseen spirits, some may be manifested in the flesh, maybe they can switch back and forth. This is well known (unfortunately, there are also demonic spirits.) The believers in Christ are the angels of the millennial. He will be resting during this 7th Day/ 7,000th year period, we will be the ones ministering during this time (and probably forever) with the King of Kings as our Prince.
Lots of assumptions here. Why wouldn't Jesus just include the rapture in the timeline he taught? Instead he teaches a timeline that makes a pre-trib rapture impossible. It's his own prophecy. You're inadvertently suggesting that he both failed to mentioned it and warned us not to add anything to his prophecy, but at the same time expects us to stitch together vague clues? And for what. What purpose do we serve the Kingdom by being absent when the unsaved need us most? During the testing of the world in tribulations.
Matthew 24 KJV 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
This is the "catching up" of the church. This is not Christ coming down to Earth, defeating Gog and Magog, restoring Israel and setting up the Millennial Kingdom.
What purpose do we serve the Kingdom by being absent when the unsaved need us most? During the testing of the world in tribulations.
The people of Israel require signs. God is going to give them signs. He doesn't need our help casting the stars of Heaven down to Earth. They'll get the message. Now once they believe, after the tribulation, with the New Testament being an entirely foreign book to them, guess who shows them the Way?
I mean he did not include it in Revelations, the book which he does include a curse for adding things to.
The "one shall be taken, one left behind" verses are more consistent with his teaching about the wheat and the tares. Rapturists are misusing those verses to promote their theory. In both Mathew and Luke those verses are connected in context to acts of judgement, the flood and the destruction of Sodom. Those being taken are not the ones being rescued. The ones being rescued are actually told to flee and they will be protected. That is consistent with Jesus's prophecy. He says woe to those who are in Judea, they should run for the mountains. He says you don't even have time to pack. Yet, we're supposed to say no that's just for the jews, see they're told to pray their flight is not on the sabbath. But aren't we supposed to be keeping the commandments which say to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy? We have layers of false doctrine confusing the church today.
I think the sabbath will be restored by the church during the tribulations... but that's a whole other discussion. short version, sun worship will not be brought into the kingdom.
Oh yeah... gog and magog are destroyed at the end of the 1000 years of satan's lockup. that is also clearly said in Revelations.
I intend to keep reading and studying not because I have any worry about my own salvation. But because I want to be used however God wants to use me in bringing about his kingdom. And when I look at the scriptures I see Jesus warning us of severe tests of faith in the coming times. I don't see him saying that his warnings are just for the Jews or the unbeliever.
Actually. Consider them though. When the beast rises, some of them will reject the beast just from natural disgust for tyranny and degeneracy. And we are going to have a greater role in leading them to Christ. But not if we're unprepared. And certainly not if we're floating around in the clouds.
And we are going to have a greater role in leading them to Christ.
Exactly
Revelation 1 KJV 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the -->prince of the kings of the earth.<-- Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Very first chapter in Revelation, already in Heaven, before any seals are broken, are those washed in the blood of Christ. This is very specific and it can only be the church, the body of Christ.
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
We are made KINGS and PRIESTS. To RULE and to TEACH. We sit in judgement of the angels, right? We are given cities to rule over, right? Flesh makes it through to the Millennial, when satan is let out of the pit at the end of the thousand years, he deceives the nations again, gathering them against the saints. We are ONE FLESH with Christ after the marriage supper, we will have the mind of Christ, this is for the purpose of us leading unbelievers to their salvation during the thousand years.
(bonus study - satan is chained in the pit for a the thousand years for one reason; it takes away the human excuse that it is satan's fault that we sin.)
Understand something else, there are angels among us now. Some as unseen spirits, some may be manifested in the flesh, maybe they can switch back and forth. This is well known (unfortunately, there are also demonic spirits.) The believers in Christ are the angels of the millennial. He will be resting during this 7th Day/ 7,000th year period, we will be the ones ministering during this time (and probably forever) with the King of Kings as our Prince.
Lots of assumptions here. Why wouldn't Jesus just include the rapture in the timeline he taught? Instead he teaches a timeline that makes a pre-trib rapture impossible. It's his own prophecy. You're inadvertently suggesting that he both failed to mentioned it and warned us not to add anything to his prophecy, but at the same time expects us to stitch together vague clues? And for what. What purpose do we serve the Kingdom by being absent when the unsaved need us most? During the testing of the world in tribulations.
He did include it -
Matthew 24 KJV 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
This is the "catching up" of the church. This is not Christ coming down to Earth, defeating Gog and Magog, restoring Israel and setting up the Millennial Kingdom.
What purpose do we serve the Kingdom by being absent when the unsaved need us most? During the testing of the world in tribulations.
The people of Israel require signs. God is going to give them signs. He doesn't need our help casting the stars of Heaven down to Earth. They'll get the message. Now once they believe, after the tribulation, with the New Testament being an entirely foreign book to them, guess who shows them the Way?
I mean he did not include it in Revelations, the book which he does include a curse for adding things to.
The "one shall be taken, one left behind" verses are more consistent with his teaching about the wheat and the tares. Rapturists are misusing those verses to promote their theory. In both Mathew and Luke those verses are connected in context to acts of judgement, the flood and the destruction of Sodom. Those being taken are not the ones being rescued. The ones being rescued are actually told to flee and they will be protected. That is consistent with Jesus's prophecy. He says woe to those who are in Judea, they should run for the mountains. He says you don't even have time to pack. Yet, we're supposed to say no that's just for the jews, see they're told to pray their flight is not on the sabbath. But aren't we supposed to be keeping the commandments which say to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy? We have layers of false doctrine confusing the church today.
I think the sabbath will be restored by the church during the tribulations... but that's a whole other discussion. short version, sun worship will not be brought into the kingdom.
Oh yeah... gog and magog are destroyed at the end of the 1000 years of satan's lockup. that is also clearly said in Revelations.