I'm with you and totally understand. I did not vote in 16 (my shame) because I was so over politics at that point because of the years of lies and evil I knew we'd been suffering. I honestly figured we were hopeless at the time. Trump was elected and my thought was "this will be interesting" I too hated HRC and was happy anyone but her had one. Then DJT pulled us out of the TPP and I was shocked awake again in an instant. I remember freaking out to my wife about it because I knew it was one of their pet projects. From that moment I began digging into all things trump, outside his reality show stuff. Then I immediately found Q and away we went. Suffice it to say I have been re-awakened with a hope unbridled. My faith has been restored for this world actually not just our nation. God gave us a chance at redemption and the simple fact we even have a chance was enough to change my life forever. A glimmer of light in a darkness I had been living through for almost my whole life. I will go to Jesus one day thankful for even the hope. No matter what happens.
So if you were (are?) in Ohio, would you vote for this guy? I'm in Ohio. I'm not being swayed yet. Is he Glenn Beck never-Trumper "sorry I was wrong, I'm man enough to admit it" or is he "I need Trump so I'ma lie to get his endorsement" sorry? Interested in your personal opinion.
Actually im in Alaska. When Kelly Tshibaka came out to run against Lisa Murkowski, our first instinct was who is this chick. So we did some digging and found out that she had spent some time in DC, a red flag of course, but still we reached out to her to get her to come to our town and meet and greet people. She was not only approachable but we had a small prayer gathering with her devoid of politics and really got a chance to meet her. The reason I say all this is she was transparent as all get out and very forthright about her intentions and was not afraid to admit her mistakes and discuss the places she had been and why she was now where she is. My take is that if JD Vance is truly "reformed" to seeing the truth of what is going on and is for a lack of a better term repentant of prior mistakes then he should be not only open to accountability but really have a desire to be open about whats led him to seeing the light. I feel I must give people a chance to change because ive been through things in my life that required second chances and I'd be nowhere without those chances, God as my witness.
I know that, especially Ohio being much larger the chances of just picking up a phone and calling the guy or even hope to have an email returned is slim to none. It would be nice to think our representatives could be so available, so we're left sometimes with only one path; Discernment. look for body language intelligence, does he use canned responses when he talks? Is he always hitting the right talking points or is he more off the cuff and like Trump speaks his mind without some kind of script behind him. Like would you feel like you were getting a straight answer when you talked to him as if you were in front of him. That tells me alot about a person. How genuine do you think he is, is what it really comes down to. I'll admit I dont know much about JD Vance but as we all know there are many snakes in the grass attempting to ride in on DJT's good graces, he truly is a king maker right now.
One thought I had was this its kind of a law of averages deal, if we get enough truly America first candidates elected, for those snakes there, will they be so strong to go against the grain in a den of lions? Its like looking at the left and how they invariably always vote together with rare exception. The only chance the left has is if the numbers are close enough that they can hope to get a few traitors on their side to sneak something through as collins and murkowski have shown, but if the numbers are wholly stacked against them with no hope of overcoming a serious republican majority it would take an incredible amount of rino traitors to betray to have our process fail, you see where im going? basically Would JD Vance politically risk himself to out himself and brand himself traitor in a massive republican majority only to see his career go down in flames in two years.
So he could be a snake, but will he show his skin or go along to get along. Thats where attempting to discern his intention resides, what will he do when the chips are down. I'd like to trust any one of them but I never will. Hell i dont even trust people at my local level that Ive known for years, because once those politics come into play it has a tendency to do something to people. Especially at higher levels. If you have access to either his recent voting record or some kind of insight into decisions that he is publicly making that may give you some insight into what level of growth he has accomplished. But also ill just say this, that was some deep seeded BS he said there. His "Elite-ism" reeked. Basically casting all white Americans as morons, which to me anyone who brings up race at all is truly the racist because if your not you see no color. But we can change.
I would vote for him only under 2 conditions, 1) He actually is reformed and on board with MAGA or 2) If he is not not strong enough to buck the tide and risk his career on making policy or voting against MAGA, (because if he is strong and has the balls to go against the grain thats where we run into trouble) kind of a lead, follow or get the hell out of the way scenario. Thats why the demoncrats have been somewhat successful, the ones with the guts to kill America are strong or severally compromised enough that they dont give a damn, or the others are too weak to stand up and go against the grain. Very hard place to be.
Sorry for the long wall of text, I just didnt want to water down a reply, I wanted to give good attention to the question you were asking. I hope I didnt disappoint. Feel free to shoot back any questions if you got any, im always available. I lurk more than I post. I very much love the insight I gain here. And finally thanks for being a patriot and loving our country. Its priceless and we are doing the right thing.
Peace Fren
wow incredible response, thank you so much! I have a lot of digging to do still on Vance. People do change. Fortunately, Vance being a successful writer, there should be plenty of interviews out there I can watch and apply that discernment. <3
I'm with you and totally understand. I did not vote in 16 (my shame) because I was so over politics at that point because of the years of lies and evil I knew we'd been suffering. I honestly figured we were hopeless at the time. Trump was elected and my thought was "this will be interesting" I too hated HRC and was happy anyone but her had one. Then DJT pulled us out of the TPP and I was shocked awake again in an instant. I remember freaking out to my wife about it because I knew it was one of their pet projects. From that moment I began digging into all things trump, outside his reality show stuff. Then I immediately found Q and away we went. Suffice it to say I have been re-awakened with a hope unbridled. My faith has been restored for this world actually not just our nation. God gave us a chance at redemption and the simple fact we even have a chance was enough to change my life forever. A glimmer of light in a darkness I had been living through for almost my whole life. I will go to Jesus one day thankful for even the hope. No matter what happens.
So if you were (are?) in Ohio, would you vote for this guy? I'm in Ohio. I'm not being swayed yet. Is he Glenn Beck never-Trumper "sorry I was wrong, I'm man enough to admit it" or is he "I need Trump so I'ma lie to get his endorsement" sorry? Interested in your personal opinion.
Actually im in Alaska. When Kelly Tshibaka came out to run against Lisa Murkowski, our first instinct was who is this chick. So we did some digging and found out that she had spent some time in DC, a red flag of course, but still we reached out to her to get her to come to our town and meet and greet people. She was not only approachable but we had a small prayer gathering with her devoid of politics and really got a chance to meet her. The reason I say all this is she was transparent as all get out and very forthright about her intentions and was not afraid to admit her mistakes and discuss the places she had been and why she was now where she is. My take is that if JD Vance is truly "reformed" to seeing the truth of what is going on and is for a lack of a better term repentant of prior mistakes then he should be not only open to accountability but really have a desire to be open about whats led him to seeing the light. I feel I must give people a chance to change because ive been through things in my life that required second chances and I'd be nowhere without those chances, God as my witness. I know that, especially Ohio being much larger the chances of just picking up a phone and calling the guy or even hope to have an email returned is slim to none. It would be nice to think our representatives could be so available, so we're left sometimes with only one path; Discernment. look for body language intelligence, does he use canned responses when he talks? Is he always hitting the right talking points or is he more off the cuff and like Trump speaks his mind without some kind of script behind him. Like would you feel like you were getting a straight answer when you talked to him as if you were in front of him. That tells me alot about a person. How genuine do you think he is, is what it really comes down to. I'll admit I dont know much about JD Vance but as we all know there are many snakes in the grass attempting to ride in on DJT's good graces, he truly is a king maker right now. One thought I had was this its kind of a law of averages deal, if we get enough truly America first candidates elected, for those snakes there, will they be so strong to go against the grain in a den of lions? Its like looking at the left and how they invariably always vote together with rare exception. The only chance the left has is if the numbers are close enough that they can hope to get a few traitors on their side to sneak something through as collins and murkowski have shown, but if the numbers are wholly stacked against them with no hope of overcoming a serious republican majority it would take an incredible amount of rino traitors to betray to have our process fail, you see where im going? basically Would JD Vance politically risk himself to out himself and brand himself traitor in a massive republican majority only to see his career go down in flames in two years. So he could be a snake, but will he show his skin or go along to get along. Thats where attempting to discern his intention resides, what will he do when the chips are down. I'd like to trust any one of them but I never will. Hell i dont even trust people at my local level that Ive known for years, because once those politics come into play it has a tendency to do something to people. Especially at higher levels. If you have access to either his recent voting record or some kind of insight into decisions that he is publicly making that may give you some insight into what level of growth he has accomplished. But also ill just say this, that was some deep seeded BS he said there. His "Elite-ism" reeked. Basically casting all white Americans as morons, which to me anyone who brings up race at all is truly the racist because if your not you see no color. But we can change. I would vote for him only under 2 conditions, 1) He actually is reformed and on board with MAGA or 2) If he is not not strong enough to buck the tide and risk his career on making policy or voting against MAGA, (because if he is strong and has the balls to go against the grain thats where we run into trouble) kind of a lead, follow or get the hell out of the way scenario. Thats why the demoncrats have been somewhat successful, the ones with the guts to kill America are strong or severally compromised enough that they dont give a damn, or the others are too weak to stand up and go against the grain. Very hard place to be. Sorry for the long wall of text, I just didnt want to water down a reply, I wanted to give good attention to the question you were asking. I hope I didnt disappoint. Feel free to shoot back any questions if you got any, im always available. I lurk more than I post. I very much love the insight I gain here. And finally thanks for being a patriot and loving our country. Its priceless and we are doing the right thing. Peace Fren
wow incredible response, thank you so much! I have a lot of digging to do still on Vance. People do change. Fortunately, Vance being a successful writer, there should be plenty of interviews out there I can watch and apply that discernment. <3