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Durham limited in presenting evidence that collusion claims were untrue, judge says (www.msn.com) 🚔 Crime & Corruption 💸
posted 4 years ago by Kampfer 4 years ago by Kampfer +23 / -0
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– bubble_bursts 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

If you post fake news link you have to atleast add your analysis.

From the first paragraph:

unless the Democratic cybersecurity lawyer argues their accuracy first.

So what I am guessing is that if the defense concedes that they were lying, then Durham cannot introduce a lot of evidence to prove the same point.

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– Hugo13 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That’s how I see it

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– ARandomOgre 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It goes further than that, I think.

Durham is not allowed to argue that the collusion claim was false.

He can only argue that specific points made Sussman were false, and he can present evidence that proves the lie and that Sussman knowingly lied.

This is largely what I expected. Contrary to the interpretation of Q's stance about a small trial having enormous impact through tangential evidence being revealed, most court systems will keep the evidence very focused and their rulings narrow.

Durham is only allowed to present arguments and evidence that counters Sussman's specific claims, and nothing more. If he wants to prove that the collusion claim was a conspiratorial lie, then he won't be allowed to do it during the Sussman trial.

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– Canadianguy17 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He doesn't need to introduce anything now.

All he needs is to prove Sussman knowingly lied. Sussman is the fuse that leads to the powder keg.

Durham can then show how the FBI, Clinton campaign knowingly colluded as well with evidence. Ohr, Fusion GPS...

Durham would probably want to keep the scope limited so he can face one batter at a time.

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– Kampfer [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Fake news link?

Which part of the Washington Examiner article is fake news?

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Fren, you posted a link to MSN.

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– Kampfer [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sure did. Same article no matter the link.

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– bubble_bursts [M] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Just a rule of thumb. Whenever you post a direct link to any MSM news just add your analysis, or else post a better link. MSM is called fake news for a reason. It doesnt mean they lie outright, but they lie by omission, out of context, and a million other ways that we have learnt over the past two years.

Even if a particular article is the epitome of journalistic standards, it still useless to people here since no one will take a word from it at face value.

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– Kampfer [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So...what is fake news about this Washington Examiner article?

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

When you read this article it gives you the feeling that this was a setback for Durham. However you might like to compare it with a much more detailed analysis by an Anon here.

Basically this order stops the bad actors in their tracks from trying to argue there was a Trump Server/Russia connection. If Sussman even DARE put his toe in that water the judge is saying that the prosecution can offer more on the data. Sussman is not going to be able to keep the lie going as a defense.

So in reality this is not so much a limitation on Durham as it is a limitation on Sussman. This is a good example of why we avoid fake news like plague. Even the framing of the subject can be turned on its head without any outright lying.

And yeah, Washington Examiner has been good sometimes, but it does not mean they are on the side of the truth.

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– Kampfer [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/durham-limited-in-presenting-evidence-that-collusion-claims-were-untrue-judge-says

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– 2EyesOpen 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Wasn't the attempt to impeach a claim, even if not in criminal court? And wouldn't that all be part of the 'discovery' process?

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