A question for Doomers/Non Q supporters - The Great Awakening

A question for Doomers/Non Q supporters 🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬

posted 4 years ago by tobeselfevident 4 years ago by tobeselfevident +296 / -0

If you are a Patriot, what exactly do you have against Q researchers/followers/supporters?

You think we've been duped--that Q is just a CIA psyop designed to pacify us and keep us from doing what we need to do to take our country back.

Ok, so what exactly are we NOT doing that you ARE?

Because to me, from your tone and your intensity and your rhetoric it feels an awful lot like what you're saying is that what we SHOULD be doing is grabbing our guns and storming D.C. and all our state capitols and hanging the traitors by the neck and reinstalling Trump as President.

Is that not what you're saying? If not, what ARE you saying? What makes you, as a fellow freedom loving patriot, better than us? You apparently haven't been duped. So where's your army? Why haven't you stormed the castle gates yet?

Are you suggesting that the only reason YOU haven't stormed the castle gates already is because you haven't convinced US to yet? Because from the looks of it based on the numbers on PDW vs GAW, we're definitely in the minority. If that's what you think needs to be done, what's stopping you?

Could it be because you're full of shit? You may not realize it but like half the shit you guys say over on PDW implies that you buy Q's view of the world anyway. Seems to me you're just too chicken shit to really look into Q and/or too chicken shit to align with it because you don't want to look like an idiot to your liberal masters, or you're just scared of being hurt again like we all were when the election didn't go as we hoped.

So tell me, seriously, if I'm the delusional one, what is my delusion thwarting? How is my delusion holding YOU back from doing what you so clearly want to do? What are you doing today that you think we Q followers aren't already doing? Why come here and try to get the rest of us to be as upset and panicked and miserable as you are--what's the goal exactly?

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– tobeselfevident [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Gotcha. Great replies. The main point I gathered where I think we see things differently was this:

I don't believe in an octopus-like cabal pulling the world's levers with singular purpose and unity.

And therein lies our difference. That seems too far-fetched to you for some reason and to me it doesn't. Totally fair.

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– nomadic 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's not that it's too far-fetched; I believe a cabal like that could exist.

But in my opinion, the arguments that it doesn't exist outweigh the arguments that it does. I've always been a Ruthless Pragmatist(TM), really focusing on the nitty-gritty practical moving pieces of a concept, and that's where the cabal theory starts to fall apart, as I see it.

Happy to answer anything -- I'll be here until I get myself banned :)

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– tobeselfevident [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What are the arguments that it doesn't exist?

John F. Kennedy seemed to think it does:

"Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired,,,I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent...For we are opposed around the world by a ruthless and monolithic conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

Or Donald Trump:

The Washington Establishment, and the financial and media corporations that fund it exist for only one reason: to protect and enrich itself. The Establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. For those who control the levers of power in Washington, and for the global Special Interests, they partner with these people who don't have your good in mind...It's a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities...The Clinton machine is at the center of this power structure. We've seen this first hand in the Wikileaks documents in which Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of US sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends, and her donors."

I also submit for consideration the following video, in case you really think all these governments, corporations, and special interest groups are really acting independently: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/04/bill-sardi/who-runs-the-world-blackrock-and-vanguard/

Anyway, that's a smattering of why I believe a cabal like that DOES exist (not to mention the otherwise insane behavior of mainstream media regarding Donald Trump and now, Elon Musk), not just COULD exist. What are the arguments you see for why it likely doesn't?

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