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tobeselfevident 1 point ago +1 / -0

Funny though, here's a verse from the Book of Mormon on this trinitarian topic. Sound familiar?

"And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people. And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son—The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth."

-Mosiah 15:1-4 (Book of Mormon)

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tobeselfevident 2 points ago +2 / -0

Had to google that. Little before my time, but I appreciate the joke now :)

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tobeselfevident 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah. See the extra context there? You don't have to believe it, but just tossing out that Mormons think Jesus and Satan are brothers clearly doesn't capture the premortal nature of that claim, wherein ALL of God's children are brothers and sisters. It's clearly different from trinitarian doctrinal understanding, but it's beyond dirty and disingenuous to just say "they think Jesus and Satan are brothers" without that context.

It's like when people say "Mormons think Christ was in America." Implying they don't think he was in Jerusalem, where the Bible stories took place, when they clearly don't think that. It's just childish bullshit.

At least this guy tried to honest about Mormons: https://www.youtube.com/@HelloSaints

It's weird that I always feel the need to defend a church I no longer belong to or believe in, but it just bugs me when Christians act like Mormon beliefs are weird or hard to believe, like theirs are so much more rational or believable. Sorry, they're just not.

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tobeselfevident 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not sure. But yeah, he's about the least favorite Mormon leader among liberals and troons in Salt Lake City.

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tobeselfevident 2 points ago +2 / -0

The LDS believe Jesus and Christ are brothers.

I was Mormon for 26 years. I've done my research. I don't think you even know what you just said.

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tobeselfevident 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haha. Well if the Mormons are right I'm more screwed than you. Apostate status and all.

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tobeselfevident 4 points ago +4 / -0

New York Post says his name is Thomas Sanford, a veteran of the Iraq war.

So one of us who thought Mormons weren't Christian enough.

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tobeselfevident 17 points ago +17 / -0

It was announced last night around midnight mountain time on KSL radio right after the BYU/Colorado football game that President of the LDS Church, Russell M. Nelson had died. Now this. If you know a Mormon, show them some love today. You think you're a real Christian, show them that with your actions.

It's worth noting that the next in line to become President of the LDS Church is a man named Dallin H. Oaks. Oaks is extremely controversial in Utah because of his strong stance against the gay and trans movement. You may disagree with them on doctrine, but that man, and that group, are political allies.

We ought to respect them as such.

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tobeselfevident 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well that's what it looks like. A Christian who didn't think Mormons were Christian enough.

Go figure.

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tobeselfevident 2 points ago +2 / -0

They stayed it pending a ruling. Then they ruled on it 6-3 that it was Constitutional. They agreed that Texas has the right to uphold this law. Celebrate.

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tobeselfevident 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, he stayed the 5th circuit's ruling. Then they ruled on it themselves 6-3 that the law was Constitutional. The law stands. Texas can arrest suspected illegals now.

We should be celebrating.

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tobeselfevident 2 points ago +2 / -0

They should also make it illegal to enter Texas after crossing any other state's Mexican borner illegally.

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tobeselfevident 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, I know you're right, I just wanted to know what you meant when you said that, and your reply was great. I really appreciate it. Those kinds of statements always smack of fed violence-bait but your reply was awesome.

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tobeselfevident 3 points ago +3 / -0

Of course it means Americans getting up off their butts and standing for something

God I'm so tired of hearing this. What does this mean? Define this please. What would getting off our butts and standing for something look like to you?

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