So, for many years, despite being totally red pilled on pizza gate and a million other things, I still thought the chemtrails theory was suspect (like flat earth is suspect). I felt that the explanation was reasonable that at certain altitudes, temperatures, and humidity levels, contrails could linger for extended periods of time. But, about 3 months ago, instead of a few lingering contrails here and there, it's ramped up to dozens of them almost every single day. After these days, the evening and overnight winds are insane. We've had insane winds most days for MONTHS. Never experienced anything like it in my life, completely ridiculous to pretend it's a natural weather pattern for the region I live in.
So, coinciding with the dramatically increased and regular "lingering contrails", I thought to myself 'I guess I should look into this chemtrail thing a bit.' So, I watched the documentary "What In The World Are They Spraying?" and they presented evidence about astronomically high levels of aluminum in the soil in places where they do this spraying, which causes the PH of the soil to come way up, so I decided to test the soil in my own back yard. Predictably, its PH is WAY high at 7.9. At 7 a lot of plants can't survive have trouble.
Anyway, I'm now thoroughly convinced they're spraying something for some reason, and obviously not a good one. So, I've been paying more attention to what days they spray, and if I could spot a pattern. I've logged in to flight trackers to try and figure out which planes, and I've searched on the internet trying to find others who have already spent years trying to spot the patterns of these flights... But I couldn't find much. There are several websites with a LOT of surface information, but apparently no one has simply logged the days, amount of passes across their airspace, the flight numbers and callsigns (or lack thereof) of the aircraft, and compared these datasets to possible explanations. If any of you know of a place where such data is compiled or presented, I'd love to see it.
Now then, I've hit upon one data point in a possible pattern: after months of total sky covering spraying almost every day, there was no spraying at all across the entire Memorial Day weekend. There are plenty of standard passenger flights across this weekend, the sky was full of planes like it is any other day- but no lingering contrails. Not a single one. Do we ever see lingering contrails spreading across the sky on federal holidays? If not, that's quite a damning coincidence. If we could demonstrate a pattern like that, we could easily shut down the "lingering contrail due to common atmospheric conditions" argument- does the weather take federal holidays off?
Yeah, I fucking know, you idiot, we've been over that already. What they don't do is ramp to 20-30 times over levels ever seen before, completely covering the entire sky from horizon to horizon, almost every day, and on days where they do not, there are literally zero lingering contrails.
Nice try, fed, lol.
Not like that.
You're completely full of shit, lol. You MUST know you're lying, there's no way you could be this dense if you were merely ignorant.
You are reacting to your experience being insignificant on geological time scales. Just because you haven't seen such things "before," doesn't mean they haven't occurred. How many catastrophic volcanic eruptions have you seen? I can count at least one.
You are overwhelmed with paranoia and arrogance. I ask perfectly straight questions (wondering how long you have lived in one place, to assess whether you have credits for claiming to be an expert on "normal") and you denounce me as a "fed." Well, tough luck. Check under your bed before you go to sleep.
And sometimes weather does change "like that." Are you the Old Man of the Mountain, who has been here for centuries? Back to how old are you.
I'm not dense. I'm just not an intellectual pushover, having an extensive background in physics, aeronautics, and atmospheric science. And I have better manners in debate. I can always tell the other party is having a rough time by their recourse to calling names and swearing.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” -George Orwell, 1984
Was there a catastrophic volcanic eruption 4 months ago in the southwest United States? Oh, there wasn't?
Projection. One of these days you're going to be faced with incontrovertible proof and have to face what a fool you've been. To my credit, all it took was a bit of haze and wind. To your discredit, you're literally out here on the internet trying to convince people of a lie.
Lol, no you act like a shill, gaslighting, straw-manning, and just generally being a moron.
I'm not telling you a fucking thing about myself beyond he vaguest possible information, shill.
Don't want to get called a fed, don't act like a fed.
Only with a cause. When the cause is plain as day, you can look up in the sky and see it happening, then you look for more information about it and there's a mountain of excellent scientific evidence that corroborates the obvious, only a true moron will say to himself "maybe it's just the weather, after all I have not lived for geological timescales so what do I know?" I bet you can't define woman either, you nitwit.
Yes you are. You're SO dense you can't even properly understand what someone says to you if you consider them an opponent, you create delusional interpretations of what they say to make yourself right. It's nearly impossible to get you to acknowledge a point, no matter how fair.
You are intellectually DISHONEST. Your credentials mean nothing.
No, you don't. You are an asshole. You argue like a shill, shifting around, nitpicking, cherry picking, never acknowledging when you're wrong or giving any indication that you care to actually communicate. Your very first comment here was asinine bullcrap, condescending, full of straw men and intentionally unflattering assumptions. I responded in kind, and called you a moron, an idiot, and an asshole in so many words and ways BECAUSE YOU ARE. Manners are a two way street, and if you walk up it setting fires you don't get to feign virtue just because I fired back.
Lol, right, you go ahead and tell yourself that. You act like a giant piece of shit, then when the person you're arguing with calls you one, now it's them who is "having a rough time." You must be a joy to be married to, lol- though the odds of you being married are probably low for much the same reasons. This is just more projection. Reality is you're in serious denial that chemtrails are real, and have difficulty adapting to new information, difficulty recognizing when you're wrong. Assuming you're not merely a shill, which I still think is entirely likely.
What evidence? Lots of assertions. Any scientific papers? Any book you would recommend? Or is the believing community illiterate? I don't suppose you have refuted the debunking on www.contrailscience.com. You have no experience of catastrophic volcanic eruptions, and therefore have no idea how much ash is produced and distributed. (Mt. St. Helens, 1980) I've had to figure out how rocket motors misperform, so I think my grip on reality is quite good. I'm not lying. You are the one telling a story. You object to being characterized with paranoia and yet you are terrified that I am a "fed." In your world, a "fed" must be anyone that doesn't go along with your delusion. (I will work on growing horns.) And I still have better manners in debate!
Find it yourself, like an adult. With your expertise, you should be able to find it easier than I did.
I'm sure people have. Taking one minute to look at their article for the documentary movie "What in the world are they spraying," their debunking is garbage. They pretend, as you did earlier, that all forms of aluminum are the same, and therefore any measured aluminum in the water or soil is fundamentally normal, which is a lie. They are, as you, cherry picking and strawmanning.
I personally don't need any, none of the evidence is reliant on my personal experience, only my initial instinctual skepticism being triggered required personal experience. The evidence of chemtrail spraying is robust enough, from multiple vectors, that volcanoes and other catastrophes are obviously not the issue.
You are lying about certain things though, or just making shit up, which is a form of lying itself. As well, your incessant strawmanning and gaslighting are also forms of malicious dishonesty.
No I don't, I think a certain amount of paranoia is healthy. Lacking healthy paranoia makes you easy to fool.
Lol, terrified, sure. Stop the attempts at gaslighting me, it's pathetic.
Nope. If you start a fight, and the guy you're fighting fights back harder than you, that does not absolve you of starting the fight. Your manners are a farce.