I wonder just who they're buying it for (if the plan is to distribute it) or if they're storing it to create a shortage. Weaponized IRS has just taken on a new meaning. I don't know about the legalities of this, but it seems like a rather suspicious purchase for a tax collecting organization.
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The IRS does have an armed Criminal Investigation Unit. Like most government agencies. Which is scary as hell if you think about it. Look up government departments with armed agents.
From November 2021 - seems like the IRS already has quite the stockpile of guns and ammo.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/11/17/how-many-guns-do-irs-agents-have-n2599189
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And look at that... (From the article) The IRS has submachine guns. Isn't that a threat to democracy? Are they expecting a war?
"... The current 4,600-gun stockpile includes 621 shotguns, 539 long-barrel rifles, and 15 submachine guns. ..."
This is as of January 1st, 2019. I suspect those numbers are higher by now, three-and-a-half years later.
So THAT’s what makes a firearm automatic, who knew?😂
That ammo doesn't even need guns to kill!
Interesting. From about sixteen months ago, 2636 armed agents employed by the IRS so basic math - around $266 worth of ammo per individual in just three months. It doesn't sound as bad that way assuming the ammo is for those individuals and that this is normal. Apparently Congressman Matt Gaetz didn't think it is (normal) so he raised the issue.
You're absolutely right that this is scary as hell - especially in light of how corrupt the government has become and what they're doing - deliberately - to actively destroy this country.
https://www.thoughtco.com/firearms-and-arrest-authority-federal-agencies-3321279
Yeah, I posted above some rough numbers, this is worse than I estimated, but only that many armed agents, I don't imagine they're trying to prevent us from having ammo, sounds like they're buying and practicing.
5.56 ain't cheap. Even shotgun is stupid expensive right now.
Thanks for the analysis, Rooks. Did you check out the Townhall link (numbers from Jan 2019) of how many firearms and how much ammo the IRS has already stockpiled?
Edit: box per month at $30 (for 9mm example) times 2636 armed agents is $79,080 per month so the purchase would be for nine-ten months NOT considering whatever they already have stockpiled. And if only five boxes per year vs twelve that's over twice the supply so up to over a year-and-a-half supply purchased in those three months.
Came here to say this. They had an IRS agent speak to us at a career day when I was in college and he mentioned he was issued a gun for his position.
This. Do the math. My brother and I discussed this year's ago when DHS was first formed, they bought millions in ammo. Not a big deal, he said. Anyone issued a gun is required to maintain basic proficiency. Cops are given at minimum a box of ammo per month and expected to practice, and are tested anywhere from each quarter to yearly.
They don't practice with cheap ammo, they use the standard issue stuff. So if 9mm, then probably 115gr or 147gr JHP. About 25-30 bucks per box/50.
So let's say they have what, 100 agents per state armed. I can't think of a reason why, but it sounds like a good number, so we'll go with that. That's 5,000 armed agents. Each one must practice, so let's say they have to maintain a yearly qualification, and they make sure they train a minimum of once per quarter. That's really, really bad, but we'll run with it.
So one agent needs 1 box of ammo, 4x a year, and let's say one box for the test, so 5 boxes. 5x5,000 agents. That's 25k boxes of ammo. Let's say they're 28 bucks a piece, that's 28x 25,000 boxes, bam! $700,000.00.
If they were doing this purchase more than 2-3 times a year, I'd question it. If they had to practice 1x monthly plus a test, that's 13x5,000, that's 65k boxes. 28x65k is $1.82 million dollars.
Assumimg 5000 armed agents (reasonable assumption), they have to spend more than 2 million in one year for them to use more than your average police officer trains with every year.
I'd rather there was NO armed IRS, I'd rather there was NO IRS PERIOD. However, they said this YEARS ago, that they were going to start arming agents. This is not new.
700k in 4 months, is approximately 2.1 million a year. Still don't like them, but without knowing the number of armed agents, I'm not to worried about this TBH.
Did they happen to mention what their intention was for arming agents in the first place?
IIRC, it was right when Obama was doing all those mass shootings, then someone not them set off a bomb at a federal building, shocked them, so they started arming agents to defend federal buildings and the IRS in general.
In addition, I seem to recall there was a scare or shooting or something with several on-duty agents, someone got hurt (I'm remembering they were punched, knocked out or something?).
We have a good friend that is a USDA investigator... he carries an automatic weapon in his truck. He goes to (gun/weapons/tactical) training at least once a month. We have always accused him of not really working for the cow police.
But he does work on large food stamp fraud cases & busts. He used to only work on farm insurance fraud type cases but in the last 5+ years, they pretty much are 100% working on food stamp fraud.