If youve been reading Q since Oct 2017, you know what I mean
Edit to clarify--what I mean is there is a Q way of speaking and this lacks it.
Ok eg this stood out immediately: Use your logic
Tell me why this is not Q like
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Interesting. I don’t want you to feel like I’m dodging if this is correct and I don’t immediately capitulate on Q’s prophecy, because whether it’s off by an hour or not, I’m still not exactly certain what narrative I’m supposed to believe as a result. That Q knew to the minute when an elected official would die of apparently natural causes?
There aren’t a whole lot of non-villains that would have foreknowledge of something like that, so I’m curious what the next step is. It’s not exactly a strong proof, but what do you want me to believe it’s proof of?
But I definitely want to look into this time zone thing, because your argument doesn’t look wrong on its face, and I want to see if it pans out when I have access to something less mobile.
I believe McCain was cut a deal, to give testimony against the cabal. His incentive for cooperating is to maintain his legacy as a legit senator, but still given the death sentence by a military tribunal.
A date was chosen for his execution, and he was given a certain period of time to play it off as cancer.
McCain wore a medical boot that famously switched legs. Anons speculated it was an ankle monitor, preventing him from escaping.
There's probably no "next step" in his story. I don't think his participation with the cabal will ever be fully revealed in public, as per the deal.
I think you could be right about the time zone situation, or at least convincing enough that I will defer to you on it for now. Interesting catch.
Which leaves us where I said, that the evidence you have is that Q suggested McCain would be “in the news” when he was in the news every single day. And that vague prediction was one month, apparently to the minute, before McCain’s death, which you consider to be highly suspicious.
Your suggestion is that the most reasonable explanation for this connection is that Q is responsible for, or at least knowledgeable about, McCain’s secret execution, in lieu of his death being from his publicly known brain cancer and being 81 years old.
That seems like an incredible extrapolation to me. I understand (though disagree) that you believe there is a great weight of evidence in deltas that supports this, but your explanation for Q’s involvement still leaves me scratching my head.
Why did McCain get a deal? Didn’t Q usually capitalize “NO DEALS”? The Great Awakening is happening by trying and executing people for their crimes in secret?
Instead of revealing it?
I’m trying to reconcile a world in which Q is trying to “awaken” people to the truth about how evil people like McCain and Clinton apparently are, but then carrying out the justice secretly, DELIBERATELY covering up the real cause of death, and ensuring the only people who believe the truth sound like crazy people to the outside world by matching up deltas.
Everything about that strategy screams that Q is someone trying to protect the legacy of the Cabal that he’s executing and ensuring that the truth, if it ever leaks out, is attributed to the wild conspiracy theories of that QAnon guy.
I don’t even believe the notion of Q being a “black hat” (since I haven’t even been convinced of the Cabal that Q and Trump blame for their problems), but that narrative seems like a Bad Guy narrative to me.
There's no way Q could operate with plausible deniability while allowing a public execution of a traitor and announcing the reasons for his execution. It appears to be that the plan requires people's reputations to remain intact.
McCain likely cooperated because the plan served his interest of staying alive a bit longer, long enough to play a villain in the movie that's unfolding. He got to have his day being the one that blocked the elimination of Obamacare with half the country cheering him.
I use the term cooperation lightly. I don't know that McCain actually cooperated beyond not running to a microphone and screaming that military intelligence is going to execute him. I can't imagine he'd get anything beneficial from doing such a thing.
My interpretation of what Q means when he says "NO DEALS" doesn't include adjustments to someone's sentence based on cooperation. To me it means someone won't go free in exchange for their testimony.
At the end of the day he was still executed.
You can believe Q is real and who they say they are without agreeing that their method is the best.
I don't like the fact that justice is being delayed. I'd prefer that all the bad guys were rounded up on day one and executed.
But I don't have all the facts. I don't know what a cabal with trillions of dollars at its disposal is capable of. I don't know what pitfalls and deadman's switches exist that need diffusing.
If I were the cabal, at full strength on day one, and knew the end was inevitable, what prevents me from poisoning all water supplies? Exploding dirty bombs in major cities? Taking out the entire power grid? Exploding an EMP and frying every circuit in the USA?
The only reason the cabal is not pissing in the bathtub is because they believe they are winning, and they believe they'll be the owner of the bathtub at the end of the day so they should preserve it.
I would prefer swift justice, but I don't know the ramifications of what would happen if Trump steamrolled the cabal on day-one and if the outcome for the citizens of the US would be far worse.
What is the purpose of Q?
A day is coming when the president of the US will be arrested. When most of the congress will be arrested. When some members of SCOTUS will be arrested.
When that day happens, it will already start off as having the appearance of a coup. An entirely-cabal-owned MSM is starting the day off with it almost exactly looking like a coup. It won't be difficult at all for them to paint it as such, when that day happens.
On that day, what prevents the stock market from collapsing? From actual patriots picking up their guns and assembling to prevent the collapse of government?
When that day comes, there's ALOT of explaining to do to keep peace and stability.
That is the purpose of Q. To give the population a head-start on understanding the eventual arrests.
Peace and stability when that day happens are the only purpose of Q.
Sound crazy now. Sound like the only sane ones on the day(s) of arrests. On that day, no one will care or need to know what a delta is. The purpose of the deltas is so that anons could have faith they're receiving intel from actual military intelligence before the day(s) of mass arrests.
Take the average individual who heard someone speak about Q, but thinks they're crazy. Even they will understand what is happening on the day of arrests. They won't be speculating that it's a coup, instead they'll say to themselves "Oh, I guess that crazy relative was actually right".
After the arrests, people won't need have faith in deltas from a military intelligence backchannel. They'll get their explanations from the hundreds of thousands of anons who are already aware of what is happening.
I see it as taking out the cabal's infrastructure and allowing it to collapse like a house of cards while giving the superficial appearance that everything is fine (from the perspective of the upper hierarchy of the cabal), so they don't piss in the bathtub.
Oh, come now. Everyone's heard of Epstein's island. Work out what the existence of Epstein's island means. Extrapolate the implications.
Why would Hunter's laptop keep such a large volume of kompromat? If you were doing illegal things with children, would you take pictures of it and then bring it in to a laptop repair place and forget about it?
You don't think a single dollar has been stolen from the American people based on a politician being blackmailed?
You know the cabal exists, you just either think it's such a small problem that it's no big deal or haven't put 1+1 together to understand the full ramifications of what it means when laws are written by blackmailed congressmen, enforced by a blackmailed presidency and ruled to be just by a blackmailed SCOTUS.
So this sort of demands a question, then.
What if the Plan successfully eliminates the Deep State’s influence and power, but never publicly vindicates you?
What if the Plan requires that Biden serve out his term uneventfully, Trump not to return to office, no public arrests or executions, and that Democrats might actually get elected, even to the Presidency?
But no more Satanists or child sacrificing. Nobody will ever know you were right, and you’ll never be able to prove it.
Is that a Plan that works for you?
So, to be clear, literally every believer of Q is smarter than every Deep State operative by a high margin, correct?
The NSA has some of the most naturally-talented codebreakers who ever lived. The CIA has access to intelligence resources far beyond what anyone here can access from their laptop.
And none of these people can see the alleged inevitability of Q’s victory? None of them are smart enough to decode what you have?
I think that would be a profoundly arrogant assumption for anyone to make, and completely unworthy of the strategic brilliance Q is supposed to be representing. Always assume ANY messages you publicly send to your own people can be decoded, in context, by anyone else listening.
If the Plan relies on the Deep State being too stupid to do what the people on this site can do, I think that’s an uncomfortable level of naïveté, and definitely not the work of an experienced military operator.
“No (P)lan survives first contact with the enemy.”
For falsifiability, how do you plan to test whether or not this belief is incorrect?
Is there a specific date that the Plan MUST have happened by in order to make sense? If we reach the 2024 election, and Trump is just running again, and no mass arrests or Awakening is occurring in any obvious way, does that mean that the Plan hasn’t happened?
I just worry if the belief is “some day, this will happen,” then you have no way to know whether you’ve been fooled. You could wait for decades, and assume Q was just operating on a forty-year delta.
Every theory should have a way to prove it’s wrong. What would prove your belief in this reckoning by Q to be incorrect? Is it possible?
Good! That means it’ll be loud, obvious, and falsifiable. And if that day comes, I have promised to be here and take my licks for it. It’ll be super easy for me to see I was proven wrong.
But if that day doesn’t come, it’s not going to be a big, loud event. It just won’t happen. The world will continue moving on without Q.
And again, if the day doesn’t come, how will you know? What’s the signal that the Plan isn’t occurring or isn’t real? It won’t be super easy for you to see if you’ve been proven wrong, certainly not as easy as it would be to prove me wrong.
Contrary to the accusations that are often thrown my way on this site, my view of how the world works is not more simplistic than Q’s perspective. In fact, I’d wager it’s more complicated, by far.
I don’t believe in one Cabal. I believe in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of criminal organizations, many of which have nothing to do with each other, and some of them that traffic children.
Epstein was one. Just one. Of thousands.
And when Epstein was taken down, someone else probably took his place within the month. Someone who may not have even known Epstein, but who has some new source of trafficked children.
I don’t see crime a solvable problem. There will always be a demand for things people aren't supposed to have. want things they aren’t supposed to have. Drugs, illegal weapons, illegal sex, whatever. This is never going to change as long as people are capable of sin.
Q is not going to save people from sin. Q is not God. You can’t win a battle against evil as long as a single human is still alive. You can only refuse to lose until the end of humanity.
The glory isn’t in beating evil. It’s in fighting it anyway, even knowing you can’t even stamp it out completely.
I believe in bad people, and I believe that bad people sometimes work together to do bad things, and I absolutely believe that rich people and politicians have an easier time than most doing bad things without getting caught. I believe these people should not be allowed to do bad things unopposed.
We agree on these facts.
What I don’t yet believe is that there is a single unified Illuminati-like Cabal. I don’t yet believe that Satanism has anything to do with literally any of this. I simply don’t see the good guys and the bad guys being divided into two discrete sides.
Most importantly, I don’t think Donald Trump has any role in any such conflict. At all. I think he believes the election was stolen from him, but I don’t believe he has any Plan to rectify it, nor does he have anyone around him who can help, even if they agree.
And I absolutely don’t believe in any Plan that claims to achieve such a massive victory against a unified army of evil, but secretly, and with some degree of permanency that makes the “sacrifice” Trump made by leaving the White House worth it.
I think Trump is probably just watching the news like everyone else these days.
I have looked for Trump to talk about this Deep State in a context that doesn’t benefit him or shift blame away from him. I have looked for Trump to accuse a supporter of being Cabal. I have been looking for some reason to counter the argument that the DS is just a scapegoat for Trump, so that he doesn’t have to tell his supporters he fucked up or couldn’t make the deal or, in other words, lost a battle publicly.
I am open to being convinced, but if you’re correct, I won’t need to be convinced. I just need to wait until the day that the arrests start.
I have no reason not to wait for the next twenty years. What about you?
I really do appreciate the time you’re putting into this conversation. Even though I know my questioning style can seem combative, I am learning quite a bit about your perspective, which I am hoping is what we both want.