I’ve met him, and know people that worked with him and on his staff.... as far as credibility goes, I stand by their judgment far more than what we hear on this “movie screen” that we are watching every day....
Believe me.... I’m trying to make sense of all of this as well. Feels like everything I always knew is now questionable. What was up is now down.... I can’t say anything with certainty now. I can only absorb all sources of information, trust my instinct, and pray for discernment.
fair enough. but how would he walk back this talk on Ukraine, Zelensky, the "Liberal World Order"? these aren't random comments but a fleshed-out position piece. it's so over-the-top I have to wonder if he's on the take in Ukraine too.
Yeah.... I hear ya. I don’t have an explanation, which is why I’m hoping it’s a disinformation thing. Trump pushed the vaccine..... and that puzzled everyone for a long time.
Honestly, I’m glad to hear something that has some substance. I can’t tell from one day to the next what is actual and what is propaganda. I have formed some opinions (Musk, Rogan, Brand, etc....), but I’m still in a posture of observing and being open to changing my mind.
I’ll file this one as “undecided” when previously I was a hair or two over on the “maybe I was fooled” side of the line.
I never trusted the man. I don't care what his "staff" say, they have no idea what his real agenda is and their job is dependent on getting along with the boss. And he suddenly became a "christian" citing scriptures and shit after he left office to appeal to the conservatives and, at least to me, came across as totally phony.
More importantly, he is EX CIA and even gave a speech that the first thing you learn in the CIA is to lie, so he is a liar to boot. There is no such thing as "EX" CIA and he gets good MSM press which means that the DS is trying to position him as an alternative to Trump to run in 2024 just like DeSantis, Buttigieg, O'Roarke, et. al. They all glow in my book.
Edit: And let me add that anyone connected to the govt calling for more arms or money to Ukraine is clearly DS or a fool, take your pick.
You not only made valid points , you had me with .. "I never trusted the man " ! I totally agree ! How anyone can't see this is beyond me ! Msm laps him up ! More money for Ukraine ,,, please ! CIA come on ...
Sometimes the obvious emotion provoked is incorrect. This is a manipulative war.
It may be Pompeo needs others to believe him more than he needs our support. So what we think doesn't really matter. Something so obvious it may be obvious so he is vilanized for another purpose. You guys play your manipulated roles well.
It is not an emotion, it is an evaluation based on known facts. You are free to spin your own baseless fantasies. Also, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar -- no secret decoder rings needed.
Except that boot wearing incident that made it look like he wasn’t....
People are skeptical.
I’ve met him, and know people that worked with him and on his staff.... as far as credibility goes, I stand by their judgment far more than what we hear on this “movie screen” that we are watching every day....
Believe me.... I’m trying to make sense of all of this as well. Feels like everything I always knew is now questionable. What was up is now down.... I can’t say anything with certainty now. I can only absorb all sources of information, trust my instinct, and pray for discernment.
Great summary and philosophy 👍
fair enough. but how would he walk back this talk on Ukraine, Zelensky, the "Liberal World Order"? these aren't random comments but a fleshed-out position piece. it's so over-the-top I have to wonder if he's on the take in Ukraine too.
Yeah.... I hear ya. I don’t have an explanation, which is why I’m hoping it’s a disinformation thing. Trump pushed the vaccine..... and that puzzled everyone for a long time.
Honestly, I’m glad to hear something that has some substance. I can’t tell from one day to the next what is actual and what is propaganda. I have formed some opinions (Musk, Rogan, Brand, etc....), but I’m still in a posture of observing and being open to changing my mind.
I’ll file this one as “undecided” when previously I was a hair or two over on the “maybe I was fooled” side of the line.
Will there ever be clarity....
I never trusted the man. I don't care what his "staff" say, they have no idea what his real agenda is and their job is dependent on getting along with the boss. And he suddenly became a "christian" citing scriptures and shit after he left office to appeal to the conservatives and, at least to me, came across as totally phony.
More importantly, he is EX CIA and even gave a speech that the first thing you learn in the CIA is to lie, so he is a liar to boot. There is no such thing as "EX" CIA and he gets good MSM press which means that the DS is trying to position him as an alternative to Trump to run in 2024 just like DeSantis, Buttigieg, O'Roarke, et. al. They all glow in my book.
Edit: And let me add that anyone connected to the govt calling for more arms or money to Ukraine is clearly DS or a fool, take your pick.
You not only made valid points , you had me with .. "I never trusted the man " ! I totally agree ! How anyone can't see this is beyond me ! Msm laps him up ! More money for Ukraine ,,, please ! CIA come on ...
Sometimes the obvious emotion provoked is incorrect. This is a manipulative war.
It may be Pompeo needs others to believe him more than he needs our support. So what we think doesn't really matter. Something so obvious it may be obvious so he is vilanized for another purpose. You guys play your manipulated roles well.
It is not an emotion, it is an evaluation based on known facts. You are free to spin your own baseless fantasies. Also, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar -- no secret decoder rings needed.
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