"Just as in Revelation 14:8 we read, in connection with Mystery Babylon, of "the wrath of her fornication," the Greek word for "wrath" here, as mentioned previously, is thumos meaning, according to Strong’s Concordance, "breathing hard, passion." That certainly sheds light upon the expression "the wrath of her fornication," for there is no "wrath" suggested in the act of fornication. A man and woman who are having a fling, or a prostitute who has been paid for her services, do not engage in wrath — rage, violence, revenge, vengeance, punishment — while they are fornicating! Oh, no! But they certainly are in the fever heat of passion! Thus, the passage should read, "…she made all nations to drink of the passion of her fornication" rather than "the wrath of her fornication." This fact alone should settle once and for all the real meaning of the Greek word thumos. So it is clear that God’s "wrath." as revealed in the book of Revelation, has to do with His passion, or feeling very strongly about something. It is illuminating that in Revelation 14:10 we find that God’s disobedient children, who ignore the wooing of His Spirit and resist His hand of dealing, are made to drink "the wine of the passion of God." Anyone knows that wine inflames the passions, but does not generally invoke wrath. Can we not see by this that God’s wrath or passion is not that which is vindictive and vengeful, but rather that which is impassioned, fervent, zealous, enlivened, glowing, vigorous, intense, burning, determined, and dynamic!"
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Not something I think about at all. It's not my religion.
Still not my religion, make a point.
I am pushing a text a particular teacher, he teaches on something of great interest to me, the kingdom of God. Pretty sure he's not talking about circumcision and the like, maybe I missed it, please point it out, other than that, your projecting what you think I i'm saying.
The author has to address what has been given to him, and he does, you assume he is just saying the same thing you're used to others saying, I'm just interested in the kingdom of God, your religious hangups need to be addressed........by you.
I have no interest in the religious questions you are hung up about, I'd help if I could but it is not my place, I don't put any thought into it at all. I do like perfection, I believe in perfection, I don't pretend to understand every religious practice, I don't have an interest in the religions of the past, you seem hung up on them, but you do seem interested in the things of God, and perfection.
It seems to me you are searching for God. I'm not hung up with the questions that keep you from a proper faith, not sure why I can look past some things and you can't, you are not rejected, the spirit can teach you just as it teaches me, you just have to accept that there is a teacher, who cares and will show you the way. Like I said earlier, it is in you.
I agree there, and the author would as well, the word of God is way more than a book. He uses the book, and knows the book, but the word of God is more than a book, it is not a creed, a writing, a tradition, it is God speaking in you, and in me, and in the world. Your thing is believing that God would speak to you.
Good for you, what people say is not something you have to put faith in, believing in a Creator, which you capitalized, is a basic in finding happiness, it's just the way we're set up. Feel free to continue to vent, I'll answer as best I can.
You forgot this one.
A few of many similar verses in the Bible:
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Malachi 3:6
For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (repent = change his mind)
Psalm 33:11
The counsel of the Lord standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
You made it clear you believe there is one author of your source material so I will play that game. One deity wrote the entire thing over 1500 years, very easy to do when talking about Anunnaki. He says he doesn't change his mind. His thoughts/rules apply to everyone in all timelines. So when he decided there won't be any more blood sacrifices after the final, most ultimate one he could think of, I'd say that was a pretty big change in him and his ideas. So his word will stand forever until the political scene is so bad that he has to change his story/requirements? No problem. HIs PR team came up with a great fix. This sounds a hell of a lot like tptb.
The "God" of Christianity is not just one, but many. It"s easy to control populations when they believe you're a deity, no? These aren't nebulous clouds floating around, they're living entities and they've been controlling humanity for ages.
Calling my factual comments "venting" and using condescending language like "it seems to me you are searching for God" is a tactic used by bad actors. The intent is to make the other person appear as if they are in a hightened emotional state and not even attempting to use logic. It's a lie and not becoming of an anon.
Yes, multiple meanings exist. Yes, the Bible is coded like every manual is. It is also the most brutally violent book of the past. It is controlled by "Evil" and changed/adjusted to fit different political demographics and times. You repeated how uninterested you are in religion, yet you use the most mainstream religion in the world to reference your beliefs.
I capitalized Creator because it is a proper noun as used. English grammar capitalizes proper nouns. I have a Source and I know, love and respect my Creator. It is not a "God". God, lord, Lord, LORD, GOD, Lord God, LORD GOD, and other variations are different titles used to identify different beings. Some are for humanity, some are against humanity. Which is your creator and what is your marker or markers proving the claim?
Sorry man, we are talking about a study on Revelation, that is the material. The author is Preston Eby.
You're ranting an argument I'm not making. I don't think the Bible is perfect, and am not arguing its validity to you. The message is what I'm talking about, I can't, don't have the capacity to argue your every issue with Bible theology.
Our creator is like us, or should I say we are like Him, His kingdom is in us, it is spiritual, our creator is knowable, this is the message of Jesus Christ, are you an atheist, or do you believe in things spiritual? You seem to like to argue against the Bible, get on topic, Revelation is the topic, it uses Bible theology that I'm not an expert in, the author(of the study of Revelation) is the expert here. You can't even consider the study(of Revelation), until you get on topic, and quit arguing Bible validity.
It would help if we were talking about the same thing. The book of Revelation is written to the Bible believing church of Jesus Christ, it is spiritual, I'm not trying to win your soul, feel free to continue arguing Bible, but it's not the topic I'm espousing.
You're proselytizing for someone called Preston Eby using materials you know are not valid and doing it on a Q research board, then telling me to stay on topic. Interesting.
I ask challenging questions and you refer me to "the expert". No one in here knows anything about Revelation and no one here is a spiritual being, like your "expert" is?We need to listen to the "expert"? I will assume based on odds that you are not a biologist - do you know what a woman is? "Experts" are a dime a dozen these days and using that term is the easiest way to get a digger to disregard what he is saying.
The fact that you keep saying "our" creator shows that you are just parroting words that gave/give you the warm fuzzies. Find YOUR creator and maybe you won't have to push this guy's interpretations of spirituality on others. You're literally copy-pasting someone else's spiritual experiences and ideas onto a board that is for Q research.
Think for yourself. That is all.
I'm sharing a study on Revelation by Preston Eby, the ideas are more than the man or ministry. I find the materials very valid.
Seems to be a lot Christians posting here in the GAW, there is a like mindedness, and a need for doctrinal issues to be discussed. I fully realize you're not interested in such things. I also post on Q topics, I enjoy the GAW crowd, I'm posting on Revelation, feel free to but in or not.
Your asking questions I'm not posting about, your questions are not particularly interesting to me, there are plenty of places to discuss your issues, start a thread if you like.............................or talk about Revelation, that's the topic.
Not what I'm saying, I'm saying this particular interpretation is off the beaten path, I find it very rewarding, I think others will as well, so I'm sharing it( and enjoying myself while doing so), I do enjoy interaction about the subject, and I enjoy your busting in as well, it is all practice for me, practice talking of the matters of the Kingdom of heaven.
LOL, come on man.
Dig away brother, Preston Eby is dead, he died this year, I'm not proselytizing for him, his work is simply the best I've come across concerning the topic, there are 250 essays on the book of Revelation, this is decades of the man's work, I find it worth sharing with people have interest in such things, I'll gladly engage in conversation concerning the topic, but if you want me to fix all your sectarian misunderstandings of Christianity, I'm not qualified, I will give an answer for my faith, and gladly so.
You thinks so? When I say our creator, I'm talking about humanities creator, you and me. I'm 57, been a Christian my whole life, I've engaged in every question you are asking, some of the answers I get are that I just don't have to know everything. I think you have your own spiritual quest, I'm willing to talk with you about it, but it is yours, some times I get some inspiration, sometimes I don't.
Been finding my creator for decades. There are teachers in the body of Christ, they are placed for the purpose of perfecting the saints. There is a particular need in the Body of Christ for perfecting concerning the book of Revelation, I'm saying this is the best I've found on the issue. I really can't help you if your not on topic, there are others who argue the validity of the interpretation, they are on topic, it challenges their understanding of the book, you however are not on topic, you'd rather argue the whole religion..............not my gig.
Yes, I'm sharing a very large and in depth study on the book of Revelation. There is a great percentage of people on GAW who have interest in this topic. Funny thing, I just got banned from Christianity.win(3 day no big deal) for speaking my mind, the folks around here seem to welcome the theme of Revelation. I also enjoy Q for Q sake, I'm a patriot, I believe in America, I served our country from 86 to 92, I really don't appreciate the communist takeover, I find that GAW has the most optimistic approach to the fight against globalist fucking over America.
All right man, bust in anytime you like :)