"Just as in Revelation 14:8 we read, in connection with Mystery Babylon, of "the wrath of her fornication," the Greek word for "wrath" here, as mentioned previously, is thumos meaning, according to Strong’s Concordance, "breathing hard, passion." That certainly sheds light upon the expression "the wrath of her fornication," for there is no "wrath" suggested in the act of fornication. A man and woman who are having a fling, or a prostitute who has been paid for her services, do not engage in wrath — rage, violence, revenge, vengeance, punishment — while they are fornicating! Oh, no! But they certainly are in the fever heat of passion! Thus, the passage should read, "…she made all nations to drink of the passion of her fornication" rather than "the wrath of her fornication." This fact alone should settle once and for all the real meaning of the Greek word thumos. So it is clear that God’s "wrath." as revealed in the book of Revelation, has to do with His passion, or feeling very strongly about something. It is illuminating that in Revelation 14:10 we find that God’s disobedient children, who ignore the wooing of His Spirit and resist His hand of dealing, are made to drink "the wine of the passion of God." Anyone knows that wine inflames the passions, but does not generally invoke wrath. Can we not see by this that God’s wrath or passion is not that which is vindictive and vengeful, but rather that which is impassioned, fervent, zealous, enlivened, glowing, vigorous, intense, burning, determined, and dynamic!"
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Sorry man, we are talking about a study on Revelation, that is the material. The author is Preston Eby.
You're ranting an argument I'm not making. I don't think the Bible is perfect, and am not arguing its validity to you. The message is what I'm talking about, I can't, don't have the capacity to argue your every issue with Bible theology.
Our creator is like us, or should I say we are like Him, His kingdom is in us, it is spiritual, our creator is knowable, this is the message of Jesus Christ, are you an atheist, or do you believe in things spiritual? You seem to like to argue against the Bible, get on topic, Revelation is the topic, it uses Bible theology that I'm not an expert in, the author(of the study of Revelation) is the expert here. You can't even consider the study(of Revelation), until you get on topic, and quit arguing Bible validity.
It would help if we were talking about the same thing. The book of Revelation is written to the Bible believing church of Jesus Christ, it is spiritual, I'm not trying to win your soul, feel free to continue arguing Bible, but it's not the topic I'm espousing.
You're proselytizing for someone called Preston Eby using materials you know are not valid and doing it on a Q research board, then telling me to stay on topic. Interesting.
I ask challenging questions and you refer me to "the expert". No one in here knows anything about Revelation and no one here is a spiritual being, like your "expert" is?We need to listen to the "expert"? I will assume based on odds that you are not a biologist - do you know what a woman is? "Experts" are a dime a dozen these days and using that term is the easiest way to get a digger to disregard what he is saying.
The fact that you keep saying "our" creator shows that you are just parroting words that gave/give you the warm fuzzies. Find YOUR creator and maybe you won't have to push this guy's interpretations of spirituality on others. You're literally copy-pasting someone else's spiritual experiences and ideas onto a board that is for Q research.
Think for yourself. That is all.
I'm sharing a study on Revelation by Preston Eby, the ideas are more than the man or ministry. I find the materials very valid.
Seems to be a lot Christians posting here in the GAW, there is a like mindedness, and a need for doctrinal issues to be discussed. I fully realize you're not interested in such things. I also post on Q topics, I enjoy the GAW crowd, I'm posting on Revelation, feel free to but in or not.
Your asking questions I'm not posting about, your questions are not particularly interesting to me, there are plenty of places to discuss your issues, start a thread if you like.............................or talk about Revelation, that's the topic.
Not what I'm saying, I'm saying this particular interpretation is off the beaten path, I find it very rewarding, I think others will as well, so I'm sharing it( and enjoying myself while doing so), I do enjoy interaction about the subject, and I enjoy your busting in as well, it is all practice for me, practice talking of the matters of the Kingdom of heaven.
LOL, come on man.
Dig away brother, Preston Eby is dead, he died this year, I'm not proselytizing for him, his work is simply the best I've come across concerning the topic, there are 250 essays on the book of Revelation, this is decades of the man's work, I find it worth sharing with people have interest in such things, I'll gladly engage in conversation concerning the topic, but if you want me to fix all your sectarian misunderstandings of Christianity, I'm not qualified, I will give an answer for my faith, and gladly so.
You thinks so? When I say our creator, I'm talking about humanities creator, you and me. I'm 57, been a Christian my whole life, I've engaged in every question you are asking, some of the answers I get are that I just don't have to know everything. I think you have your own spiritual quest, I'm willing to talk with you about it, but it is yours, some times I get some inspiration, sometimes I don't.
Been finding my creator for decades. There are teachers in the body of Christ, they are placed for the purpose of perfecting the saints. There is a particular need in the Body of Christ for perfecting concerning the book of Revelation, I'm saying this is the best I've found on the issue. I really can't help you if your not on topic, there are others who argue the validity of the interpretation, they are on topic, it challenges their understanding of the book, you however are not on topic, you'd rather argue the whole religion..............not my gig.
Yes, I'm sharing a very large and in depth study on the book of Revelation. There is a great percentage of people on GAW who have interest in this topic. Funny thing, I just got banned from Christianity.win(3 day no big deal) for speaking my mind, the folks around here seem to welcome the theme of Revelation. I also enjoy Q for Q sake, I'm a patriot, I believe in America, I served our country from 86 to 92, I really don't appreciate the communist takeover, I find that GAW has the most optimistic approach to the fight against globalist fucking over America.
All right man, bust in anytime you like :)
Great Awakenings here have been happening like clockwork throughout time. They have all been spiritual, and the purpose of each one was to change public perception - move the Overton Window. a little further. Show to the masses that they are not just mindless workers but Consciousness Itself playing a game. Each time, progress has been made but it had to be in waves over very long periods of "time". The mind cannot interpret what it has not been programmed to receive and is easily broken. Q told us that if the public knew the truth, 99% would end up in the hospital.
A human's religion, their God, is the closest, most intimate part of their identity outside of self. It's so close to self-identity that people kill other people for insulting their religion all the time in "Holy Wars", false flags that kill in the millions. That is why many people who have a religious identity are so easily manipulated and cannot handle that core belief being challenged. That identity is going to be challenged. For some, it will be the last chain broken and the liberation of their mind. Others will break.
Thank you for your time and perspective. All information is valuable.
You're welcome, I appreciate your input, bust in anytime you want :)